2016-06-20 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes — June 20, 2016 Ike: We heard people say that they weren't heard so, I mean, you know, I can understand what you said, I, you know, I agree, I sat on Boards... and is there a way to change that so that groups of people who are users of resources begin to feel like they have some say in all of this... As an example, I sort of agree with Bob Duerr, who said it's broken, and so I'm trying to fix this. And, we have example after example of this happening to the point where a lot of people come and tell us that it's broken. So I'm interested in fixing it. But how do you fix it. CY: You know, when you talk about the people using the resource — in this case people who like to go fishing — the goal of this thing is to enhance fishing — it to enhance it in the long run and sometimes, to make things good in the long run you have to take — you have to sacrifice in the short run and so it's not an anti -fishing or anti -fisherman initiative... Ike: So, you differentiated between the Marine Life Management Area and Marine Life Conservation District? At Kaupulehu it's going to be a what? CY: Kaupulehu is called a Marine Reserve, but it's a ten-year — the differentiation I'm making is this, there are things, in the DLNR rules called Marine Life Conservation Districts and those are basically intended to be permanent. It is different than a Marine Life Conservation District. A Marine Life Conservation District is set aside and the idea is it's going to be an ecosystem that's not really affected by humans taking fish out of it or taking coral or whatever out of the Marine Life Conservation District and it's not — when I say permanent — nothing human — you know, you can change it. It's a set of rules that can be changed but the idea when you set up — set it up it is permanent. This is set up is intended for ten years and it's intended to restore fishery abundance so that then you would have sustainable fishing and hopefully at a higher and better level in the years to come? Ike: We keep hearing from people who are fearful that, that's not gonna happen. So how do we, how do we fix that so that people are heard? It's a tough question, I agree, but it seems like, the process we have today favors one side over the other, and the users are saying, hey, you know, we have ten situations nine of which we lose... CY: But, you know, you did talk about balance and I think you would have to say the balance is the areas that are open for fishing, which is the bulk of the coast. There are only a few areas that... Ike: I have to disagree - there was a time that I used to go spearing in Kona. 14