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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes — June 20, 2016 <br />Ike: Only because there was a lot of push back from the community. <br />CY: Well, they did it. <br />Ike: Well, I mean, but there was some openness to that, right? <br />CY: I mean, these things — there was somebody that worked hard on it in <br />DLNR is all I've got to say. <br />Ike: So, OK, I don't want to belabor this but there is an opinion that says that <br />our public policy as it relates to resource management has failed, I mean, <br />it's quite common to hear that, right, I mean, I don't know if you hear it — I <br />hear it all the time. <br />CY: I hear it — but I also hear it from both sides. I hear it from a side that <br />says... <br />Ike: Chris? OK. You know, that — I'm sorry to put it this way because, you <br />know, I'm a conservationist, I'm an environmentalist — but, you know, <br />when I waste stuff like this — when I go to Puuwaawaa and I don't see <br />game management going on there — I see a plan — but the plan seems to <br />be an environmental plan rather than a game management plan, I see our <br />game management rules and regs and basically they are on the take side <br />but they do not deal with the sustainable side of that — do we do breeding, <br />do we do culling, yeah, I mean, there is none of that. If you look at our <br />laws — and so — then you have to say constitutionally are we really fulfilling <br />the requirements of law? I mean, that's my opinion at this point, but, I have <br />to ask that question because I keep hearing people say that. <br />TL: Can I just make a quick comment here, Ike? Um, you know, DLNR, BLNR <br />have a large number of constituencies and you're not serving all of them <br />equally and, fishermen, I'm hearing, you know, I'm not that familiar with <br />the fishing issues, but, you know, I'm hearing it pretty loud and clear <br />tonight that there's been no attempt to work with the consumptive users of <br />that area — to manage that area. Ah, he said, ah, you know, either this way <br />or that way kind of a thing, ah, it doesn't seem like there's any attempt to <br />bring these groups together and say OK, this is our goal, you know, how <br />do we come together for a solution. It seems that it was, well, we're just <br />gonna working on a ban. And that brings up my other question — you said <br />that somebody brought this request to you, to have the administrative rule <br />change? <br />CY: This was basically a community initiative by people outside the DLNR. <br />They had worked with the DLNR to formulate the administrative rule <br />change. <br />16 <br />