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little surprised with that so now we gotta go back to pioneering <br /> again. So we supplied five hundred pages of technical data...we <br /> had the engineering calcs done and then we ask for more <br /> engineering and I'm...sorry to say but if a person is a professional <br /> engineer...as a builder which I've been for years...it should not <br /> matter to my professionalism if I'm building with wood...concrete <br /> block like a steel SIP panels you know or whatever...I'm a <br /> builder...I take what I got and I build. If I'm an engineer...I can't <br /> imagine sitting there and saying we don't understand steel. <br /> Mr. Robinson: I understand...yeah I just wanted to be clear about that. So was <br /> there any point in these...all these different letters that you <br /> submitted...are they responses that you submitted that you're <br /> actually sat down with Mr. Lee and were able to go thru these in a <br /> discussion. <br /> Mr. Tucker: The last two pages of hand written or typed up notes from two <br /> different meetings occurred because we had to get off the page of <br /> sending letters to take months and go back and forth...try to get to <br /> the source of the questions and ask specifically just what do you <br /> want. Now...Bill the client...Mr. Kerr is here who was in those <br /> meetings with Daniel Lee and has told me he's sitting there going <br /> thru a long lengthy meeting and often sitting there going just tell <br /> me what you want. Stop talking about the birds and woods...stop <br /> talking about how your house is not as well insulated as you wish <br /> it might be just tell me what you want. <br /> Mr. Robinson: Okay. Thank you. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Mr. Goodenow? <br /> Mr. Goodenow: Just if you could clarify for us on the letter you just passed <br /> out...the email dated March 17. It's addressed to Mr. Bona. <br /> Mr. Tucker: Correct. <br /> Mr. Goodenow: Could you just give us what this email is...to who is Mr. Bona <br /> and... <br /> Mr. Tucker: Mr. Bona is another designer...architect...he does a lot of work for <br /> Artist Building Materials...he's been in a similar round of <br /> frustration...in fact I've talked to a number of architects that are <br /> more livid than I have been...and he voluntarily provided me with <br /> some of this correspondence he's had and I'd like to point out on <br /> page one of this letter...item three where I've underlined it and I <br /> mention that...where Mr. Daniel Lee says to Mr. Bona...you had <br /> 22 <br />