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Mr. Andrade: No...not first hand. In my job description...I basically come into <br /> play after contractors have been elected...have won bids and what <br /> not. <br /> Mr. Adams: Got it. And then this current...the bid that you provided for this <br /> job SW4316 has nothing to do with Parks and Recreation? <br /> Mr. Andrade: No. <br /> Mr. Adams: Okay. Thank you. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Go ahead Mr. Robinson. <br /> Mr. Robinson: Okay Madame Chair I don't understand contract hire...does that <br /> mean you're not like permanent civil service? <br /> Mr. Andrade: Yes. <br /> Mr. Robinson: You're just hired for a like a specific period of time? <br /> Mr. Andrade: Yes. <br /> Mr. Robinson: For a specific project? <br /> Mr. Andrade: Yes. <br /> Mr. Robinson: Okay I understand now then. Okay. Thanks. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Mr. Goodenow? <br /> Mr. Goodenow: I move that we find no conflict...no ethics issue...no conflict with <br /> this petition to approve it. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Do we have a second? <br /> Ms. Kalele: I'll second. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: Thank you. Any further discussions in regards to this? <br /> Mr. Adams: I would just point out...actually it's a question for counsel. When <br /> I took a look at definitions under 2-82 and we look at employee. It <br /> says that the term shall not include an independent contractor. So <br /> my question is...do we have a definition of that? Who an <br /> independent contractor is related to...is that a separate...is that a <br /> separate designation from these other designations that we find? <br /> When Mr. Andrade talked about being a contract hire and that <br /> 9 <br />