2016-11-03 Hearing Transcript - Ohana Ho'opakele GAF Claim

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that the claim's adjuster has approved this study, which was the rub nearly two years ago, that I thought everything was smooth and its go. So, I hope the Commission can find a way to move this study forward. It's 2016. Geothermal was starting in the seventies or early eighties. It's a study late, but late better late than never, and I hope we don't have to be back here two years from now still dealing with some bureaucratic ground hog hole again. So, again, my intent was to say thank you. I am saying thank you, and please move this forward with Michael Edelstein as the lead. Mahalo. HENKEL: Thank you. Do any of the Commissioners have questions for the four testifiers before us right now? Okay, thanks. You may be seated, and we'll call the next four. Dave Kisor, Dana Keawe, Ronald Fujiyoshi, and Gary Harrold. KISOR: This is always so much fun. HENKEL: Would—let's get the legalities out of the way. Would you raise your right hands? Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth on this matter now before the Planning Commission? TESTIFIERS: I do. HENKEL: Okay, please state your name and where you reside, and then proceed. Use the microphone. We'll start with Dave Kisor. He's the first on the list here, and you get six minutes. KISOR: I gotta hand it to you. You actually pronounced my name correctly. Well, and as far as Item 6 is concerned, I go, agree with Palikapu. It's, it's—it's a long time coming. This is Hawaii, and you might imagine Hawaiians would be concerned. All right, that's it. I can't speak for anybody but myself as a mutt, European mutt. So, now Item 7, the only reason we'll having a real problem here is because of what the, what the geothermal plant produces. Not just electricity. What comes out of the ground, what comes out of the ground is hydrogen sulfide, and now, most people don't realize that it's the second most toxic gas known after cyanide. And, it was taken off the hazardous air pollutant list because a number of industries complained. They just whined and sniveled because it would affect their profits. They get sued! So, they had—had the Congress under H. W. Bush remove it. And, they said it was only put on the list as ait was a clerical error. So, the second most toxic gas known was a mistake to be have been put on a hazardous air pollutant list. That's the kind of opposition we're up against, and that's what give the states, individual states the abilities to do their own hydrogen sulfide legislation. And, here we have the hourly weighted average, and that's where you can take a spike of hydrogen sulfide to just might come along and be enough to drop a bull moose in its tracks. And, what they do is after an hour, they recalculate everything out so essentially it would have, mathematically mind you, the hydrogen sulfide content of a fart. And, that's about it. And, they'll look at the, look at the reading and say EXHIBIT C 12