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nothing happened. Couldn't possibly have happened because our readings show that it's
<br />nothing. And, that's, like I said, that's what we're up against here. And, whenever people go
<br />and sniff it, and they find itthere's people in this room right now who are really good at
<br />finding it, and they'll confront PGV, and they'll say, "did you have a leak?" "No." And, they'll
<br />have to keep going back and forth and back and forth until they finally say, "Oh! Oh yeah, we
<br />had a leak." Okay, but, oh, and from what I understand, I was at the last County Council
<br />meeting. When a particular Council member, committee member, if you mentioned anything
<br />about PGV, he didn't want to hear about it. He only wanted to hear natural disasters. He didn't
<br />want to hear anything about a man-made disaster, and that's what we had when Iselle hit. I was
<br />at the house, and when you hitI don't know if anybody up here up front has ever experienced
<br />the sound of Albizias falling. That crack. Boom! I mean, it's just unnerving. Believe me. I
<br />mean, my house is made out of rock. I got the earthbag house in Puna. Yeah, it was probably
<br />one of the biggest mistakes I ever made `cause yeah I have to—well, it was made for a desert,
<br />not for a rainforest. Go figure.
<br />So, anyway, but I had friends whose houses got hit. A buddy of mine, he and his wife, his wife
<br />and son, got out of there. He and a friend were trying to, you know, secure the place down and,
<br />of course, they were building the house. They have a little shack they're living in, and the house
<br />that they're building, of course, it couldn't be insured, and what happened? Two trees hit it and
<br />their catchment when "poomp!" And, that was all. You know, it was kind of an interesting time.
<br />I went to go see them, see how they were doing. I had to climb over six Albizias to get there.
<br />And, if it wasn't for neighbors with chainsaws, nobody would be able, you know, the rescuers
<br />that we were experiencing, the ones that came in and, you know, we'll here to save you, they
<br />couldn't have gotten in.
<br />But, that's, that's it for me. I'll let that go for now. I'll pass it on.
<br />HENKEL: Thank you, Dave. Dana Keawe? Dana, you're going for six and seven so you've
<br />got six minutes.
<br />KEAWE: My name is Dana Keawe. I'm born and raised from Kaimu, Kalapana. I've lived
<br />there for five decades of my life. I was there before the geothermal plant was ever built.
<br />Just being here is stress for me, okay? And so I support both of these health studies to be done
<br />for our community and our Kanaka Maoli that are from there. When you ask about the impacts
<br />of how this has affected us, I was there 30 years ago plus when that geothermal plant blew up. I
<br />was down in Kaimu, Kalapana miles away, and I heard that explosion and that sound afterward.
<br />And, then I walked in those forests afterwards with my cousins who go collect to go gather.
<br />There were no birds. There were no animals. There was no sound in the forest surrounding that
<br />place after that explosion.
<br />So, that it's just, when you talk about the impacts of how that's affected us, you know, that's
<br />huge. You know, that it'snobody talks about how this affects are environment down there and
<br />our forest and the life in our forest which for us is something sacred and everybody refers to it as
<br />the Volcano or Madam Pele or the Goddess Pele. We have called her Tutu Pele all my life.
<br />Tutu that's our ohana. And, so just having this geothermal plant all these decades and the
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