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Mr. Robinson: Mr. Eddins response letter of November 7 was very clear in <br /> responding to all the particular points that Mr. Hyland had raised in <br /> his original petition. <br /> Mr. Sing: Procedurally. <br /> Mr. Robinson: Procedurally. <br /> Mr. Sing: Yes and we stand by all of those. <br /> Mr. Robinson: Okay. <br /> Mr. Sing: But the question was more substantive and that's one of the <br /> fundamental problems is we have...we don't have any specific <br /> accusations here. <br /> Mr. Robinson: Well Mr. Eddins spent quite a bit of time responding to what we're <br /> I thought accusations by Mr. Hyland. <br /> Mr. Eddins: In that response we were very clear to indicate that none of the <br /> accusations by Mr. Hyland were particularized. That was pretty <br /> clear. What we then addressed was since he simply referenced <br /> codes sections...how each of those codes sections was inapplicable <br /> on its face based on what he claimed in his petition which was not <br /> particularized so when the Chair's asking particularized questions <br /> that's what Mr. Sing is referring to about the fundamental on <br /> fairness of this. Moreover, the trial record has established all those <br /> issues. The fact that this Board has apparently sought the trial <br /> transcript suggest that we are in investigatory mode and that's the <br /> way it's proceeding. We also have requested the transcript and we <br /> will have that ideally shortly and all those issues with respect to the <br /> Hawai`i County Charter...the Hawai`i County Code and indeed the <br /> p-card policies...not the shareholder agreement...suggest that the <br /> Mayor was authorized as Mr. Sing referenced and it's hard for us <br /> what he's talking about is to address any un-particularized <br /> assertions and that's the fundamental problem...due process wise <br /> that we have here. <br /> Mr. Murai: Madame Chair if I may. I heard you say earlier and Mr. Eddins <br /> had mentioned that our request for the trial transcripts for the <br /> criminal matter...I don't know if you asked for it personally...but <br /> staff has not asked for it. <br /> Ms. Kahakalau: I did have a discussion...oh my goodness I had so much stuff on <br /> my plate this week. My recollection is that I did communicate <br /> with the staff in regards to the transcripts. <br /> 27 <br />