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OLSON: Jon Olson here. I represented him back before the Planning Commission. He was not <br />available. He was on the mainland when the issue came up. So, the fact that we're back here is <br />partly my fault. I'm here to take that responsibility. Just to be clear, I didn't receive all of the <br />paperwork I probably should have had and didn't have full knowledge of some of the things that <br />had happened. I had not seen Chris Yuen's letter overruling the adjuster's issue and the issue of <br />the agriculture, and the issue of agricultural compensation for the crops and plantings that he lost <br />on the property, so. <br />HENKEL: Okay. Any comments from the Commission. You know, I'm, I live in an area <br />impacted by geothermal, and I'm sympathetic to people that live even closer than I do. And, I'm <br />also sympathetic to the, you know, the fact that if you—say if you're a furniture builder, and you <br />feel forced to relocate, you can—you can move your tools and your materials and your <br />equipment and so forth and continue working, so, you know, I understand when you, when you <br />plant trees that it's difficult. But, I think the underlying factor here is the time between the last <br />Commission's judgment or and—and, there's nobody on that Commission here now that it's, <br />you know, I just think it's too late for us to do anything. <br />OLSON: Well, again, this is probably my fault because we only recently had a discussion. You <br />know, I've known Jan for 30 odd years. And, somehow or another we got back on the topic, and <br />I was hearing things from him that I was not aware of, and I said, well, you know, you—maybe <br />we can get this looked at again because clearly, the original rules of engagement, I mean, he, he <br />had the land for almost, what, 20 years, and he was planting it before he built the house on it. It <br />is, for Puna, it's—it's extremely interesting topography because it's a 1,500 -year old cinder <br />cone, and it's now soil. And, you can grow literally anything on it, and you can grow things like, <br />like he grew coconut trees, and they were easily extractable because they were cinder soil. So, <br />they were a prime commodity, and you can't, you can't just go anywhere and do it. There's <br />about, what, ten acres in all of lower Puna that I know of that is like that in terms of its, its <br />characteristics to grow things, his fruit trees. <br />So, it just, it's fallen through the cracks, and the fact that the reason that Yuen did what he did <br />was not apparent to me at the time. So, like I say, this is in part my fault. <br />HENKEL: You know, there are different factors that play here and that the Planning Director, <br />you know, recommended not approving it. <br />OLSON: Yeah. <br />HENKEL: The claims adjuster recommended one amount. <br />OLSON: Yeah. <br />HENKEL: And, the Commission at the time awarded another amount. <br />OLSON: Right. <br />EXHIBIT D <br />5 <br />