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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes — February 13, 2017 <br />truck through the mud underneath stuff, you're gonna for sure pick up <br />fungal spores. The beetles are very small — they make like a pencil lead <br />hole size — that's a picture of one of the beetles under the ear of Franklin <br />Delano Roosevelt on a dime — so they're very small beetles doing this. We <br />all know the directions of the wind on this island — what goes off in Puna <br />blows south through Kau and then up the Kona side — so we know that's <br />what happens with the vog. That's also the pattern and the way this <br />disease is spread. What do you call it when evidence is — circumstantial <br />evidence — direct evidence is do we pick up actual sawdust with the <br />spores on it in the air? So we set up last month — we're starting — cause <br />they're actually using the stuff they used to make pollen counts on the <br />mainland to see if here we're finding this disease. We're setting up testing <br />across the island to see is that stuff actually moving. This disease needs <br />some kind of wound to get into a tree. If it just lands on the bark it's not <br />gonna do anything — it's not gonna go through the bark — if it lands on a <br />fork and the dust accumulates on a fork — a fork is kind of a wound — as <br />the tree grows up the bark gets stuck inside - that kind of is a wound. But <br />the other kinds of wounds are things that people do. One of the important <br />things is not wounding trees. These are three trees that were infected — all <br />which we saw that had some kind of wound in the past — so the one on the <br />right there you can see — it was on a driveway — someone banged it with <br />the earth moving equipment. It was just too much weed whacker on the <br />small one and the one with my axe was some, again some kind of land <br />clearing operation — took a big piece of bark off and that allowed the tree <br />to be infected, the beetles... <br />TL: On the wounding - Yeah, we're hunters in this room and when you're out <br />hunting use cane knives, machetes, whatever it might be to go through the <br />forest — you might wound a tree that way — might take a shot at an animal <br />— might hit a tree. What kind of an effect is that gonna have on you — with <br />you folks? <br />JB: OK, shot an animal I'm not worried about it — I don't think you're doing a <br />quantity of that. I'm a forester so I move around the forest too — it's almost <br />always chopping some sort of brush underneath the ohia trees — chopping <br />into an ohia — the one thing that I would suggest that people really avoid <br />doing is blazing where you are by taking chops out of trees. I used to do <br />that as a young man — I'd go through if I didn't know where I was. I'd take <br />a chop of a tree every now and then to find my way back — that's bad. We <br />really shouldn't be doing that — there other ways to mark your trail — figure <br />out where you are — than just taking chops as you walk along, cutting <br />brush. If you're in a forest and there's a little ohia in the way and you chop <br />it out — then you probably killed that tree anyway. You're not chopping at <br />trunks of trees — what I think is the thing we don't want to do is take chops <br />out of trunks of trees. Most of the time I'm chopping raspberry or clidemia <br />14 <br />