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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting <br />Minutes — February 13, 2017 <br />or melastom or something like that when I'm - uluhe — when I'm trying to <br />go through the woods — I'm not chopping ohia. <br />TL: You don't see any danger of DLNR saying, "Your bullets are gonna land in <br />or some environmental organization" - Your bullets are hitting these trees <br />so now that's wound that's gonna kill that tree. <br />JB: I'm much more concerned about is driving vehicles from and infected <br />forest into a non-infected forest. All of this is a percentage thing, nothing is <br />gonna be perfect on it. What is gonna move the most amount of an <br />inoculant? What's gonna do the most amount of wounding? Bullets — not <br />so much — walking along taking a chop every 100 yards over the course of <br />the day — then you've infected a lot trees — so that's something we urge <br />people not to do. <br />TL: On the vehicles — when we were up on Hawaiian Homes lands up there <br />going into the back — on a cattle hunt area — when we came out we had to <br />wash our boots and things with alcohol, I think it was that we sprayed on <br />and I think they also sprayed the wheels or the tires - Is that gonna be <br />sufficient? <br />JB: Again, it's a percentage thing and I don't recommend alcohol on wheels <br />and tires. <br />TL: It may not have been alcohol — I don't know what they were spraying... <br />JB: If they're spraying it would have been alcohol. Let me back up a little bit <br />and talk about the biology of the fungus. This is a real successful kind of <br />fungus. It has several different kinds of spores and several ways of <br />spreading — they have a hard shell spore — that's the kind that lasts for <br />four, maybe five years - that's what's gonna be in any kind of sawdust. <br />That's what's in the beetle produced frass that's in the mud there. What <br />you have to do with that is you just have to wash off the dirt. So I pressure <br />wash under my truck. If I go off road — say Stainback where there's a lot <br />of it — and then I go somewhere else like up Hakalau — I pressure wash. I <br />come back to my base yard here — I pressure wash under the truck to get <br />the mud out and again, if it's caked with mud and you clean out 99.99% of <br />the mud you're done. You can try it to clean out more. If you cut wood, <br />the fungus also has sticky spores. So then your tool becomes infected — <br />it's got that sticky spores on it- so chain saw, axe, machete — anything <br />cutting into the wood — in Latin America they have a Ceratocystis disease <br />of coffee — they call it MolDay Machete — cause the guys pruning coffee <br />take it from one tree to the next to the next as they go down with their <br />machete. That's where I use the alcohol — anything that I cut — it I cut the <br />tree with a chain saw — I take it apart — I take the blade off — take the dust <br />out and soak the thing — spray it with rubbing alcohol — machetes, hatchet, <br />15 <br />