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CLARKSON: I mean I did a subdivision along with another family member in 1988, and we <br />had to go through the Planning Department. <br />JACKSON: Okay. <br />CLARKSON: We didn't just make a survey and record it. <br />JACKSON: Okay. Maybe Susan or Jonathan could respond to your direct inquiry much better <br />than I could. <br />GAGORIK: Good morning, Mr. Chair and members of the Commission. My name is Susan <br />Gagorik, and I'm the manager for the subdivision, administrative permits and subdivisions is <br />under our section. <br />So, what happens, what has been happening lately is that we get requests from applicants saying <br />can you tell me whether this lot is a record, you know, a legitimate record. And, normally, this <br />happens before someone may decide to sell their property, and when they sell their property, <br />they get a title search. So, the title search company will look through all the records for that <br />particular property, and they'll find that there is no subdivision number for that property because <br />when we approve a subdivision with our department, we issue a number, a final number. And, <br />that final number becomes the record for a legitimate property. So, if it doesn't show up in that <br />search process, that's how we find out about something. And, so through our process, we would <br />then document in a letter back to the applicant whether we had a record or not. And, so <br />normally, that's usually when you find out that the process has not been followed. <br />I don't know if that answers your question or if it's, you know, still a little vague, but we're the <br />central depository, and before, it was a surveyor's office, and they went through the process and <br />nobody, you know, they didn't check with us until we took over the mapping process in 1999. <br />So, then the process then comes to us all the time. <br />HENKEL: I'm sufficiently confused. Orchid Isle Estates, is that, that's an established <br />subdivision or is it like a, one that was proposed in '61 and. <br />GAGORIK: Maija mentioned it never came through the Planning Department although there <br />was someone that created the file plan, and they filed it with the surveyor's office, the State's <br />surveyor's office at that time, and then it went to the Bureau for recordation. <br />HENKEL: Have they been paying taxes on these lots? <br />GAGORIK: Yes. So, this is a situation where you see all the conditions that are listed now that <br />are proposed? These individuals have a tmk. They have been paying taxes. Probably the lots <br />have been sold multiple times to different people and it's been recorded again. So, the <br />individuals that now own the lots say, you know, am I not a lot of record? Right? All of these <br />things have happened over the years. So, we are saying, we would like to acknowledge the fact <br />that these property owners have paid taxes. They were under the assumption they were a <br />legitimate lot of record, and they sold properties, you know, so things have occurred that make it <br />EXHIBIT C <br />3 <br />