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HALL: I think they'll go through it more in depth. I'm just giving you the very broad, but <br />they'll go through each one, so like each component of it, so like the assessment portion and all <br />that kind of stuff So, if you'd like to wait and hear their presentation, then they'll be much more <br />thorough then I was just now. Sorry. <br />IKEDA: Okay, thank you. <br />HENKEL: Commissioner Clarkson? <br />CLARKSON: Yes, to remove any doubt about the procedural capability or legality of this <br />meeting, I would like to move that the Joint Planning Commission take up the issue of revisions <br />to our rules, particularly Rule 9 and call for a vote on that matter before, by the Joint <br />Commission. <br />HENKEL: So, there's a motion on the table. Would you restate it, please? Restate the motion. <br />CLARKSON: That the Joint Windward and Planning [sic] Commission take up the issue of <br />considering amendments to our rules. <br />HENKEL: Now, I apologize. This is—this is new territory for us here, and I see that the <br />Leeward Commission is, are not up at their microphones, and they should be. <br />KAY: Yes, Mr. Chair. We're going to have them move back up to the, to their seats while we <br />have this discussion. <br />HENKEL: Okay, and then <br />KAY: Give us two minutes, please. <br />HENKEL: And, then once the Leeward Commissioners are up there, we'll be looking for a <br />second to that motion. <br />KAY: Thank you, Mr. Chair. <br />LINGER: Mr. Chair Henkel? This is Keith. Before we get into a motion, can I just try to clarify <br />what we're doing? <br />HENKEL: Yes, go ahead. <br />LINGER: Apparently, the Planning Director has initiated rule changes and that's what we're <br />reviewing today. Basically, these have come from the Planning Director, so the issue is does the <br />Planning Director have the authority to initiate rule changes under our rules. And, so I question <br />to Corporation Counsel specifically is if you're looking at Rules of Practice and Procedures, <br />County of Hawaii Planning Commission, on end, when they say a person can initiated changes <br />to the rules, the definition here of a person means any individual, partnership, firm, association, <br />trust, state, corporation, or other legal entity of, of any character other than an agency. <br />EXHIBIT A <br />16 <br />