2017-11-28 Game Management Advisory Commission Minutes

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Hawaii Game Management Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes – November 28, 2017 But I don’t know how you stop guys from going and killing multiple pigs and throwing the meat in their bag and... WJC: I think that would make sense if there was some sort of a management happening... TS: Exactly... And that kind of spins it to my next questions,- in reading through the minutes from the last meeting – I missed and I wish I came... WJC: Exactly, if you look at page 8 – that’s right where I was getting to... This is Dave Smith’s policy... We’re trying to manage a good public hunting program. He has no ambition to manage any game and if you read through this it’s pretty good – I mean, it pretty much explains the policy of the people over there on Oahu. Page six: we’re interested in managing a public program. I mean, they’re just wanting to manage – or the guys over there, now, don’t get me wrong, the guys over here on the ground are – in my eyes – a lot different from everybody on Oahu. But, it needs to start in Oahu – we need to somehow convince those people and, I mean, what you’re saying makes perfect sense, as far as buying tags, you know – having a tag fee – but you gonna come right back to that same question again is where is those monies... WJC: You gonna have the public all upset. It’s like now we gotta pay more, I mean, this is something that I’m hearing already like with the PTA thing with the \[unclear\] Sportsman and people having to pay now to go and I hear these grumbles about how come we gotta pay it? They don’t open the place up and da, da. It, I mean, you know how it is – you can never please everybody but I can just see that escalating to something really huge so... I don’t know, I mean, I think from day one Ike and everybody’s, I mean, we’ve been poking this whole what is the policy for our game? And the conclusion that I’ve come to in these five years is that there is no policy for game because – game mammals – because the mammals are in their eyes a nuisance. And that’s putting a value on it, yeah... TS: Yeah, cause I’m trying to define what David Smith, is that right? We’re running an effective public hunting program. What I want to know is what are they measuring for it as effective. Is it the amount of hours hunted or is it hunter success and I had asked, I think, Robert Kramer to see on the state commission level if they could find out how hunter success has varied now that more areas are being fenced, when aerials are being eradicated and stuff like that – so I’m still hoping that someday we can get some data on that, that, you know, cause I don’t know what an effective hunting program is, I mean, what – are they collecting data on the hunting sheets like they used to and, you know, like on Mauna Kea they used to have how many animals were eradicated – how many through hunters and 14