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space initially. And the Agency determined that the best use for those spaces should be to
<br /> maintain the present uses because it was the belief, contrary to the recommendation of the initial
<br /> conceptual plan, that there would be interest in having such structures next to the ocean in view
<br /> of the harbor, and that we wanted to maintain that capacity as continuing use of it. The
<br /> conceptual plan maintains the existing condominium uses for that area. Now on the other hand,
<br /> I'm not certain what we did with the Orchid Isle, the old Orchid Isle Hotel parcel, but there
<br /> appears to be some public interest in having that continued to be an expanded park area. Now, in
<br /> terms of the General Plan, the agency proposed commercial areas that were near the Suisan as
<br /> well as along the Kalaniana`ole Highway area and along the, that area going towards the park
<br /> area in the golf course section. Recognizing full well that that area is under present lease with
<br /> the Naniloa, but I think that if someway somewhere—how we could find a way to make it a win-
<br /> win for everyone in order to maybe develop more parking or have other uses. But in concept, I
<br /> think the idea is that if we could get the existing structures, the Billy, Uncle Billy parcel, the
<br /> Country Club parcels, to be more productive and positive, then that may spur further interest and
<br /> development in the commercial sites. Now I think the real concern, and I think that deals with
<br /> Mr. Bockrath's property is the Ice House because that structure—no offense Mr. Bockrath, is
<br /> that that structure, because of its present, I believe, open zoning, I think it's open—it's zoned; the
<br /> General Plan at present I believe it's open, huh?
<br /> ARAI: Yeah, my recollection is it's open. I think even the zoning is open.
<br /> DELIMA: Okay. Yeah, so under the General Plan what we've suggested is become
<br /> commercial. Under our conceptual plan.
<br /> ARAI: Oh, on the conceptual plan you've indicated as commercial, that's correct.
<br /> DELIMA: Now I think the reason the Agency did that was to give the, was to allow the private
<br /> land owner to have useful—the ability to invest and make that property more viable to, so it
<br /> doesn't become an eyesore for that area. Because if you don't, if you don't, General Plan amend
<br /> it and zone it to be economically viable, then it'll continue to deteriorate and become an eyesore
<br /> in the area unless the County's gonna condemn it, which doesn't appear that there's the
<br /> resources. It's not on the list of public acquisition properties. So we should give the land owner
<br /> the ability to make it economically viable. And I think the same concept was also earmarked for
<br /> the HELCO property. So right now it's a, they have a dormant electronic, energy generation
<br /> plant that's not operating. So that's another eyesore. So we, I think we conceptually planned it
<br /> for commercial properties. So I think those are the General Plan amendments that the Agency
<br /> has supported, and I think for good reason, it's supported those measures. That's the reason
<br /> we've kind of indicated in the past that we need General Plan amendments to effectuate that
<br /> aspect of the conceptual plan.
<br /> ARAI: And being that it's still conceptual, being that it could still, it will evolve as we go
<br /> through the review processes, the Environmental Impact Statement process, I gather, and I don't
<br /> want to put too many words in your mouth, but I gather that the Agency is looking at making
<br /> sure that the General Plan builds in enough adequate flexibility.
<br /> DELIMA: That'd be great. I don't think this would be inconsistent because I think as the
<br /> Agency and as the Mayor has indicated, that we need to be flexible in meeting interests of the
<br /> community, whether it be interest in recreation opportunities or interest in investment
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