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until 9:00 o’clock last night; so if anything came in after that, the Commission does not have it. <br />And then you should have an email from Eldridge Naboa of Fish and Wildlife. We also handed <br />out this morning a letter from William Lazenby, Julia Alos, Jojo Tanimoto, Barbara Schaefer, and, <br />I’m sorry, let’s see, Olivia Cockcroft. I’m also going to hand out three more that you can pass <br />around, we only have one copy, and that’s from Mike and Sue Kniss, Victoria Serrao and Marcie <br />Davis. And the applicant provided this binder and they will go into more detail on the contents of <br />that in a few minutes. And that concludes my presentation. I’ll be happy to answer any questions <br />the Commission has. <br /> <br />UNGER: Thank you. Commissioners, are there any questions? <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: Yes, I have a couple. Can you explain why the trails appear to end on the map? <br /> <br />JACKSON: On, on which end? This end here? <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: Yeah, those trails that you pointed out appear to end and not go any further. Is <br />that typical? <br /> <br />JACKSON: I don’t know the answer to that question. I know the applicant’s archaeologist is <br />here, and he can probably provide information about why those trails end where they do. <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: Okay. And do we know, is 2014 the last time that this shoreline was certified? <br /> <br />JACKSON: It was actually 2015, yeah. And let me explain why that was. So typically, certified <br />shoreline surveys are only valid for one year. When the Planning Department receives an <br />application, we honor that certified shoreline survey, even if it takes more than a year for the <br />application to get through the approval, the entitlement process. So what happened with this <br />particular application was in 2015 the applicant submitted an application similar to what you have <br />before you, and then the State Historic Preservation Division determined that their archaeological <br />inventory survey was somewhat outdated; it didn’t meet the criteria according to SHPD rules for <br />an AIS. So the applicant agreed to redo that survey and that process took about two years. During <br />the process the applicant created a revised AIS, they created a new preservation plan, they revised <br />their site concept several times to what you have before you now. And just for a little further <br />background, when SMA 412 was issued in 2000, the trails were known at that time, those three <br />primary trails, and the State Nā Ala Hele informed the applicant and the Department that those <br />were trails that were owned in fee by the State under the Highways Act. But at that time SHPD <br />didn’t determine them as historic trails for whatever reason. So what happened was there were no <br />preservation requirements for those trails at that time. Since then, since the new AIS came out, <br />new preservation plan, SHPD has changed that determination and they are seen as historic and <br />culturally significant, which is why now the applicant change their site concept to accommodate <br />those preservation buffers. <br /> <br />CHURCH: You said one of the — <br /> <br />CARR SMITH: Thank you. <br /> <br />8 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />