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CHURCH: — trails was desecrated. I wondered what was done to that trail to be desecrated. <br /> <br />JACKSON: I think it was bulldozed. We can have the applicant provide more information on <br />that. <br /> <br />CHURCH: So it wasn’t the general public then. It was the, it was the owner of land, developer? <br /> <br />JACKSON: The applicant doesn’t know who bulldozed the trail. And so, if you look, if you look <br />at your, let’s see, Exhibit, excuse me, just a minute here, okay, Exhibit Number 11 of your <br />background report, there is a letter from the applicant explaining how it was discovered that the <br />trail was desecrated and what actions they have taken to remedy the destruction. And I’m sure <br />that the applicant will provide more information on that as well. <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: One of the questions I have is I haven’t heard anything on, in regards to what the <br />applicant plans to do to enforce some of these wahipana that’s there, the trails. Do they provide <br />any kind of security or any kind of procedures? Because, you know, we know that the locals <br />respect the property, but when we have visitors come, what kinds of insurances that we have? <br />And also I wanted to find out what is “voluntarily leave the area” mean on the green sea turtles? <br />What does that mean? <br /> <br />JACKSON: That means that the turtles leave on their own when they are done basking. <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: Okay. And so that’s when construction can continue? <br /> <br />JACKSON: Ah, yes. <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: Okay. <br /> <br />JACKSON: That’s when construction within 100 feet can continue. <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: Okay, so as long as they are there there’s no construction allowed until they leave. <br /> <br />JACKSON: Within 100 feet, correct. <br /> <br />SHIMAOKA: Within 100 feet. <br /> <br />JACKSON: Yeah. <br /> <br />UNGER: Any other questions? Thank you, Ms. Jackson. If the applicant would come forward. <br />Please raise your right hand. Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth before the Planning <br />Commission? <br /> <br />APPLICANT’S REPRESENTATIVES: \[Inaudible response in the affirmative.\] <br /> <br />UNGER: Please state your name and area of residence. <br /> <br />9 <br />EXHIBIT B <br /> <br />