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Page 14 <br />1 prosecutors and corporation counsel. Depends. Honolulu, of <br />2 course, has the most of each in terms of bodies. In terms of <br />3 complexity, I would say for corporation counsel, because we <br />4 have so few bodies, but we have such a big area, with that <br />5 big area comes a whole other diverse set of issues that other <br />6 places doesn't have. I mean, you know, for water, right, <br />7 like we have for water. Yes. We have less population, but <br />8 to transmit that water to the population, a big difference. <br />9 MR. MATSUKAWA: I don't know numbers, 'cause I <br />10 don't keep track. But the complexity of the crimes, I can -- <br />11 like the type of crimes we get. So you get a murder -- <br />12 unbelievable within the last six years how much murder cases <br />13 we got. <br />14 Now, when you get murder cases, a lot of times you <br />15 no more suspects, or you just get the forensic evidence. So <br />16 you got to know DNA, you got to know gunshot, you got to know <br />17 multiple other things, biochemical, I mean the kinetics, the <br />18 way the body is, to recreate the crime. <br />19 The more complex the crime, it's the more type of <br />20 education you need. So, that's what we're talking about. You <br />21 know the service that we go to, DNA training like that, a lot <br />22 of deputies get that. And if they leave, that's not <br />23 something easily replaced, or even the experience of laying <br />24 the foundation. <br />25 MR. PAVAO: No. I guess what I was asking was what <br />ISLAND COURT REPORTING & TRANSCRIPTION SERVICES <br />(808) 933-9800 <br />