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Page 9 <br />1 free to express opinions. But that is not, so they should be <br />2 compensated for that, the fact that you -- and you doing your <br />3 trial at -will, you know. So that's -- you have another? I <br />4 ready for questions. You have any questions? I got plenty <br />5 answers. <br />6 MR. PAVAO: I'm just glad, on Thursday, you going <br />7 be bulletproof. <br />8 MR. MATSUKAWA: Well, I was going another three <br />9 years. But because I couldn't retire because the pay was so <br />10 small, I had to wait at least -- not -- see, what happens, I <br />11 got my pension and I got my -- I save up all my vacation, <br />12 which I never took, I using it to supplement me until I can <br />13 get Social Security, 62. Then I don't have to worry. <br />14 But I've been speaking up because I think these <br />15 people, you got to pay them what they're worth. That's the <br />16 bottom line. <br />17 MR. FRATINARDO: I have a question, Jack. Is there <br />18 a sense among staff that they're kind of waiting to see <br />19 what's going to happen for the Salary Commission? <br />20 MR. MATSUKAWA: Maybe just Terry back there. <br />21 Because Terry might, end of the year, retire too, but, you <br />22 know. <br />23 MR. FRATINARDO: To see whether it will affect <br />24 retention at the prosecutor's office? <br />25 MR. MATSUKAWA: Yeah. <br />ISLAND COURT REPORTING & TRANSCRIPTION SERVICES <br />(808) 933-9800 <br />