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Page 20 <br />1 MS. SAKO: No. I mean, not specifically. I <br />2 mean, we bargain each contract period, and there are <br />3 increases. There's annual increases in the two- and <br />4 four-year contracts that were approved, not <br />5 necessarily -- they're not necessarily called cost of <br />6 living increases. <br />7 MR. DOW: Are you able to predict a future <br />8 salary for a particular position? <br />9 MS. SAKO: Only based on the collective <br />10 bargaining agreements that have already been approved. <br />11 So like, let's say, SHOPO, because they had a four-year <br />12 contract, whatever the employee's salary was on day one <br />13 of that contract, we know what the across-the-board <br />14 raises are, we know what the salary or the step <br />15 movement increases are based on the contract; so then <br />16 we can calculate that out for the next four years, and <br />17 we'll know what the salary will be at the end of that <br />18 four-year contract. But beyond that, because it's <br />19 subject to collective bargaining -- and we bargain <br />20 state-wide -- the governor has four votes, and each <br />21 mayor one -- you know, it's really hard to know exactly <br />22 what it will be. <br />23 MR. DOW: I have been trying to figure out if <br />24 there is a way of determining the likelihood of hitting <br />25 a salary inversion situation in any particular <br />ISLAND COURT REPORTING & TRANSCRIPTION SERVICES <br />(808) 933-9800 <br />