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HAWAII COUNTY CHARTER COMMISSIONPage 5 of 104 <br />SANTANGELO: He’s supposed to be here. <br />RAY: We’ll have somebody from Corp. Counsel here momentarily, but other feelings? John? <br />SANTANGELO: I’m just trying to get a clarification, Roland. Are you saying that we don’t do <br />everything verbatim, just the action and summarize just the general meeting? <br />HIGASHI: I think the intent, if people are looking for the intent of the meeting, of the motion, they can <br />go to the tape, we have that as an archive tape,yeah, but I can see when our meetings get longer, we get <br />more into issues, that these minutes will be a problem. If every word is correctly documented, I think it’s <br />all right, but I think when they go through a tape and somebody’s sitting there and trying to transcribe <br />what everybody said, it’s going to be a problem. <br />RAY: Okay. Kevin. <br />BALOG: When we did the Planning Commission, we did a -. <br />RAY: Yeah, well, since we are, you know, recording this, why don’t everybody try to use the mike since <br />it seems to be we’re headed in that direction. <br />BALOG: When we did the Planning Commission, we did a test run of doing minutes summarized versus <br />verbatim, and because the people transcribing the minutes off the tapes need to summarize what people <br />say, it actually took them longer to do the minutes than it took them to type them verbatim. And the <br />other thing, if you do summarize, your motions that are made and accepted or whatever you do pass, <br />from what we understood from our -, when Corp. Counsel advised us, has to be verbatim in your <br />minutes. And then your testimony from the public and the Commissioners can be summarized. But your <br />actual motions that are made have to be verbatim. <br />RAY: Marni. <br />HERKES: I notice that later in the agenda we’re going to have an item on secretary, and I think some of <br />this would come under that, because I would suspect that a really good secretary would not take longer <br />to summarize and could take minutes, and I would expect a secretary to attend the meeting and do the <br />minutes and not from the tape. And so I would think that there is something to be said to leaving some <br />of this discussion until later, until we talk about the secretarial position. <br />RAY: Gary. <br />YOSHIYAMA: I think we should discuss it later when Mr. Wurdeman comes up because in the <br />minutes, he addressed this about, you know, verbatim versus, you know, other types of information to <br />put in the -. I can’t find it though. I know I read it when I reviewed it. Since this was verbatim, it’s hard <br />to find. <br />RAY: Okay, John, just a quick comment and then let’s -. <br />SANTANGELO: A quick comment for consideration is I know some of the examples we’re giving are <br />situations in which decisions and votes have a direct impact and are implemented. What we’re doing <br />here are we’re coming up with concepts that will go to vote and be ratified by the voters, so what we’re <br />doing doesn’t have a direct and immediate consequence. So I just wanted to put as a difference between <br />what we’re doing here and what other people do and just wanted to put that out there. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 3-17-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />