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HAWAII COUNTY CHARTER COMMISSIONPage 25 of 51 <br />RAY: No, we’re not at that decision yet. <br />MARTIN: Okay. <br />RAY: But, it is okay if we let Virginia and Jiro leave at this point? <br />IRVINE: I guess I maybe have one more question. We didn’t hear from Public Works, I think, on the <br />idea of Board of Appeals under this. <br />SUMADA: The Planning Director and I have had some very lively discussions regarding that and I have <br />to acquiesce to her, or the concept that the Board of Appeals would be under our department, and we <br />would establish rules to implement that, also. <br />IRVINE: It sounds like you’re a little reluctant, but is this necessary? <br />SUMADA: Well, since I think the issues that usually are contested deal with subdivision related matters, <br />and also building variances, that we can sign up for that challenge. <br />IRVINE: Thank you. <br />RAY: Okay. <br />KUROZAWA: I have a quick question. It concerns the Board of Appeals hearing subdivision matters. If <br />this change goes through, won’t subdivisions move to Public Works? <br />GOLDSTEIN: Yes. <br />KUROZAWA: Won’t there be the same problem now? Am I mistaken? The problem now is that <br />subdivisions are under Planning, and Board of Appeals is under Planning, so you want to move Board of <br />Appeals to a different division, so there’s no problem of impropriety, but then if you move subdivisions <br />over to Public Works, it’s the same problem. <br />GOLDSTEIN: They’re two issues. One that I raised last time was this appearance of conflict between <br />having an agency that’s hearing the appeal also be housed in the same agency that you’re appealing <br />from. That’s the one thing, and that would remain if it went to Public Works. The other would be just <br />the administrative kinds of matters that go with carrying a Board of Appeals, and in that sense, most of <br />the things would relate to Public Works and the permitting, so that’s why we made that suggestion. <br />RAY: Kevin. <br />BALOG: This, I guess, is two questions, but I’m a little confused why, if there’s a Charter Amendment <br />to make this move, why you would only be dealing with Planning, and not Public Works, and why <br />would be only the problem of the Council, because if you’re proposing a Charter Amendment to the <br />general public, and the Charter is the document that governs the County, it governs the Council, so if the <br />voters would approve an Amendment that maybe stated that subdivisions, blah, blah, would be <br />transferred to Public Works, that’s it. Why would you need Council approval after that Charter <br />Amendment, to say yes or no? <br />GOLDSTEIN: I’m not following you. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 9-29-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />