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minutes 10-13-99Page 7 of 31 <br />although in talking with the firefighters, and some police officers, they believe that the model that is <br />used in the City and County of Honolulu is working so well. It’s such an improvement over the way <br />things used to be, especially with respect to the Fire Commission, that they would heartily endorse that, <br />and I think you heard some comments from members of the Council, as well as the Corporation <br />Counsel. <br />HERKES: We did. <br />TYLER: The issue that I have with all of this is one of the fiscal constraints under which the County <br />operates, and I was ready to propose a Fire Commission. Mr. Chung and I talked about it a number of <br />times. He says, well, go for it because there certainly seemed some desire on the part of the Fire <br />personnel, but looking at the budget, it seemed to me that the best way to do that was to take the Police <br />Commission budget and divide it in half, and I didn’t think that I would get five votes to be able to do <br />that, and I wouldn’t make any friends with the Police Commission. <br />HERKES: No. <br />TYLER: If you go to a County Manager system, you’d probably save the County two or three million <br />dollars a year and that would more than pay for a Fire Commission. So, how’s that for an answer? <br />HERKES: Thank you. <br />RAY: Sue. <br />IRVINE: You did mention this document we had from Keola Childs, which is critical of us going to a <br />County Manager form of government, and he’s quite strong in saying that trying to get a paid manager <br />to move into our County, which is full of political preferences and a medieval land use environment, <br />that’s a quote, end quote, that we’re kind of a big physical and political problem that would be too big <br />for an appointed person, possibly from away, to solve. Do you have any comment on that? Also, in some <br />of that literature that may have come from you, there is mention that you need a ‘cohesive’ political <br />entity to make this a successful form of government. <br />TYLER: Yes. Thank you for asking the question. I would like to comment. Mr. Childs did send me his <br />first draft of that by e-mail and I did remember his comments with respect to that. Begin by saying we <br />certainly <br />can’t go backwards and change what is or what has been, but I think we have, as we come into the new <br />millennium and a new century, the unique opportunity to really improve accountability, and in terms of <br />how we, as elected officials as well as appointed and hired, function with the public. And I think the <br />days of partisan politics and deal making, while it exists in some areas, is actually becoming a thing of <br />the past because of things like the internet, websites, ability for people to travel to meetings, and become <br />informed, and perhaps some more vocal people, like myself and others, who bring things to mind, <br />whether you agree with them or not. It stimulates attention. Personally, I don’t think it’s a valid reason <br />for not trying to do the right thing, and I happen to think it is the right thing, however, as I said earlier, I <br />have a great deal of respect for Mr. Childs, and I think that he probably reflects a feeling that, perhaps <br />some of you have, here on the Commission, certainly members of the community, but there’s really no <br />time like tomorrow, and the future, and you, I think, have the opportunity to at least put it out there to <br />the people to consider. With respect to the cohesiveness, let me just say that, as someone who is part of a <br />family that has followed the Council for decades, and someone who has personally followed the <br />Council, actually for more than two decades, long before being a part of it, it is my opinion, at this time, <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 10-13-99.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />