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minutes 02-05-00Page 14 of 66 departments would be under the Managing Director, and in the long scheme of things, it might be possible for him to group later on. And future commissions might like to look at a Public Safety Commission. Okay? HIGASHI: So for now, we just - HERKES: For now, I think we’re - YOSHIYAMA: Sounds real good. RAY: Okay, Police Commission. Just so you know, I’ve still received some comments, and I think, certainly, profited by all the public scandals, and whatever, is there something we need to do to address the situation with the Police Commission. I got a call last night from a Police Commissioner that really needed to talk to me but I didn’t get hold of her, but Roland did. Jo-Anna Herkes. But I really put this on here because there was that conversation, that came up today earlier, that folks like the language from the Fire Commission, and maybe we should look at incorporating some of that, and I thought that was more for clarification, a cleaner language, kind of spell some things out better, rather than substantive changes. The floor is open for discussion in regard to the Police Commission. Marni. HERKES: I make a motion that we adopt the language that’s been submitted for the Fire Commission in it’s entirety, and adopt that as the Police Commission language in the new Charter. RAY: Second for discussion? SANTANGELO: Second. RAY: Okay, let’s discuss. John. Well, first off, let’s everybody take a minute and see if we can pull that out to see what we’re talking about specifically. Let’s hold all discussion and let everybody get a chance to get it. So, everybody needs to open up our Charter and look at the Police Department. MARTIN: Chapter 2, page 14. RAY: And then the Maui County. Okay, who had the floor? John? SANTANGELO: I guess I asked Marni. She had a difference of opinion. But I’m wondering, with this, we were talking about making all these commissions conform under the same rules, set up the same way. Is there any way this can be a part of that general housekeeping stuff, or does it have to be handled totally separately, because I can see where it could get a bit confusing. But, I support this a hundred percent. I’m now wondering how best to handle it. HIGASHI: Conformity is one thing but the responsibilities of different departments is another thing, so I feel uncomfortable with having some of those things - SANTANGELO: Okay, it was just a question. RAY: Do you want to address that specifically, as far as what - HIGASHI: I don’t have a copy. I only remember about the personnel procedures goes before the commission in terms of the Police Department. I feel somewhat uncomfortable of micro managing personnel actions through the commission. And I don’t have a copy but I remember that one point. RAY: Can you give him a copy there, Sue? IRVINE: I can. file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 02-05-00.html7/1/2011