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<br />BEN: There’s a definition as to what consultation is, and yes, it is getting involved with the appropriate Commission, and
<br />having dialogue with them, and considering any recommendation they have. If I may, I just wanted to make one comment on
<br />Mr. Ray’s draft, and I don’t know whether or not this is the intent of the Charter Commission but it only references Civil
<br />Service employees. I’m not sure if you’re referencing County of Hawaii Civil Service employees or Civil Services in the
<br />State, or could we go to the mainland, you know?
<br />RAY: No, that’s just off the top of our heads, something to throw out there. So, all these are subject to refinement, but it
<br />seems to me the two big issues are do we cover everybody in this Executive Pay Plan, and then how does it work with the
<br />departments with Commissions that presently appoint salaries. We have to work out those details, how all that would work.
<br />Any other questions for these folks?
<br />Barry, something that I’ve always been bothered by is the uniformity of salaries for all the Department Heads, and should a
<br />future Mayor take our recommendations in regard to the Managing Director position to heart, the way we’d like them to, and
<br />really use that position as the Chief Operating Officer of the County, City Manager type, I would imagine, and hope, we
<br />would be recruiting somebody that would probably be considerably higher paid than anybody in the County, including the
<br />Mayor. Do you think the Salary Commission might look at it that way?
<br />MIZUNO: Mr. Ray, actually the Commission in the past, and I’ve been on it now for four years, and in our discussions that
<br />I’ve participated in, we’ve always used the Mayor’s salary as, kind of, the point at which is the top salary should be of the
<br />County, as far as what the elected officials are, and everyone else should be below that level. He, being the Chief Executive,
<br />it just seems right.
<br />RAY: Okay, but were we to switch to a Council-Manager form of government, clearly you go out and hire a top gun City
<br />Manager type to run the County, and so should we adopt more that type of managing scheme.
<br />MIZUNO: So what you’re asking is if we were to adopt a City Manager type of government, should the salary of the City
<br />Manager now be higher than the Mayor?
<br />RAY: Right.
<br />MIZUNO: Quite definitely. It could be.
<br />RAY: Other questions for these gentlemen? Jan, do you want to say anything? You just happen to be here. We just happen to
<br />be in your office.
<br />IRVINE: I guess I wondered should we make it clear, if we’re thinking of leaving the County Physicians out, should we do
<br />that here and now?
<br />RAY: Yes, we’re going to go back to discuss this. I didn’t want to keep them up to the table, or here, any longer. Jan, do you
<br />have anything to share with us, thoughts on this?
<br />PAKELE: Salary?
<br />RAY: How this would work. In other words, if we were to make this Charter change, that the Salary Commission were to set
<br />this whole level of salaries - I guess it’s unfair to ask you that since it’s your salary. Okay, well thanks. We might as well
<br />open up the floor to discussion on this item, and so what’s everybody’s thoughts, first in regard to the number of positions
<br />that would be covered? First off, do we have pretty much consensus that we want to give the Salary Commission increased
<br />authority over, at least, Department Heads and Deputies? Can I have a show of hands that are in favor of that preliminarily?
<br />ALL COMMISSIONERS PRESENT RAISED THEIR HANDS.
<br />RAY: Okay, we know we’re moving in that direction, so let’s discuss the number of positions that would be compensated
<br />under this plan. So, I’ll open that up for discussion.
<br />HERKES: The number of physicians or positions?
<br />RAY: Freudian slip there. Positions. Anything?
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