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minutes 04-12-00Page 19 of 26 <br />IRVINE: Yes, they are engineers, but I think what impressed me was that they, more or less said, I mean, the head of the <br />department has to sign off on engineering permits and things, and it might be a little odd to have that person unable - <br />HIGASHI: I don’t envision a Department Head looking at a plan in detail, and micro managing that, and saying - <br />IRVINE: No, no. Do they sign off? Individuals. <br />HIGASHI: Not as an engineer. They sign off as a Department Head, so I mean, that’s my point. <br />HERKES: It has an engineer’s stamp on it when it comes in, or it’s supposed to. <br />IRVINE: Okay. To the Head of the Department. <br />HERKES: Public Works. <br />IRVINE: Oh yeah, I know that. <br />RAY: Any more discussion on this? <br />HIGASHI: I’m open minded but we can move on. <br />RAY: Okay. Impeachment. <br />HERKES: I like the Portuguese Chamber 5%. <br />RAY: The one item we’ve got to clarify is in regard to if we’re going to allow signatures from outside the district because <br />that will influence the number of votes required, that we wouldn’t have the same standard if signatures were limited to a <br />single district vs. island-wide. So, we’ve got to answer that first before we can answer what number of signatures we want to <br />go with. <br />HERKES: Can Chris help us with that? What does the Charter say now? It says anybody can impeach anywhere. Right? <br />YUEN: Well, it’s not clear. It wasn’t changed when it went to single member, and my read would be that you can sign from <br />outside the district. But it’s really not 100% clear. <br />HERKES: Do we have other Charters? I’m sorry. I have it right here. Has anybody done research on other counties? <br />YUEN: I think the more typical thing would be that you would sign within your district. <br />HERKES: Within the district? <br />YUEN: Yes. I’m not sure what the others say specifically, though. <br />IRVINE: Certainly the testimony we got, people don’t understand that somebody else should be able to come in and sign a <br />petition - <br />RAY: Impeach their Council person. <br />IRVINE: Yes, and I can see their point. I guess the other question I was going to ask because Mr. Pranke has sent us copies <br />of things he thought should be incorporated, and he was saying that impeachment should apply to ‘any officer of the County’, <br />even those appointed. <br />RAY: There’s a whole packet submitted by Del that we need to look at, and if anybody wants to bring forth, make an <br />argument for - <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 04-12-00.htm7/1/2011 <br /> <br />