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Transcript of Meeting of May 10, 2000Page 27 of 62 <br />IRVINE: Actually, I think that whole Section (d) there is absolutely incomprehensible. <br />HERKES: Yes. <br />IRVINE: Verbosity. It comes out of City and County, I think, whereas Maui just uses the first sentence <br />saying ‘evaluate the management and performance of each agency’, period. That’s all they say. I think <br />we could work on the wording in there, eliminating a lot of the evaluation and analysis. An evaluation to <br />me presupposes an analysis has been done. <br />SANTANGELO: Mr. Chairman, I raise a point of – <br />IRVINE: We’re not talking on the issue. <br />SANTANGELO: We’re, kind of, out of order here. We’re dealing with a motion and I think we need to <br />deal with that amendment, and then go to the next one because parliamentary really comes in here. So, <br />personal privilege. Thank you. <br />RAY: Steve, so you’re amendment is just specifically – <br />BESS: Merely with regard to title. <br />RAY: So, Office of Management. <br />BESS: Office of Management rather than Department. <br />RAY: And then under 6-1.1, then there would be an Office of Management. Also, Chris, will you <br />refresh our memory in regard to the requirements. Didn’t we also vote to eliminate that last - <br />YUEN: Well, yes. When this was originally voted on, this language about the professional experience in <br />art and science of management, I put that in by mistake. The Commission had actually voted not to have <br />that in there, so that’s the status. <br />HERKES: Is that a little personal privilege by the lawyer? <br />RAY: So, does everybody understand? The motion does not include that. <br />IRVINE: The art and science. <br />RAY: Right. <br />HERKES: In this motion, are we voting on additional changes? Additional change, agency heads, <br />executive powers, on the next page? <br />BESS: No, that’s separate. Right? <br />HERKES: Is that separate? <br />IRVINE: I think that would happen if we voted this in. Right? Isn’t that why we have - <br />HERKES: No, it’s qualifications of department heads. And that’s why I want to know if this is all in the <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 05-10-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />