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minutes 05-31-00Page 27 of 54 <br />SANTANGELO: That’s the pot calling the kettle black, there. <br />IRVINE: Okay, touche. <br />SANTANGELO: I don’t mind the periods and stuff. It lets you breathe. <br />IRVINE: And it takes out ‘and analysis’. I think when I say ‘its operating and capital budgets’, is that right, or is that <br />singular? <br />HERKES: You’re evaluating an agency. They only have one program and one budget. <br />IRVINE: Okay, ‘Each executive agency including the extent to which, and the efficiency with which, it’s operating and <br />capital’. No, well, ‘it’s operating and capital program and budget’. <br />HERKES: ‘With which, it’s operating and capital program and budget has been implemented’. <br />IRVINE: ‘Program and budget’, okay. Maybe singular is okay. You’re right, if it’s just one agency, but if you have to go to <br />that extent, it’s – I move that we – <br />HERKES: Oh, here it comes. <br />IRVINE: I don’t want to move – Is – <br />SANTANGELO: Go for it. <br />BESS: You’re good. <br />IRVINE: The longer version or the short, guys and ladies? <br />BESS: Long. I want long. <br />IRVINE: Okay, everybody wants long. I move that we put, instead of (d) as written, ‘evaluate the management and <br />performance of each executive agency including the extent to which, and the efficiency with which, its operating and capital <br />program and budget have been implemented’, period. ‘Appoint the necessary staff to assist in such evaluation’, period. <br />‘Assist the executive agencies in improving their performance and make reports to the Mayor and the Council on the findings <br />and recommendations of such evaluation’, period. And then continue with ‘a report’ and down to the end of (d). <br />SANTANGELO: Second. <br />BESS: That’s good. <br />HERKES: Question. Call for the question. <br />SANTANGELO: We’re ready to vote. <br />BESS: I have one comment. This ‘and the efficiency with which’, what does that add? It sounds funny anyway but ‘of each <br />executive including the extent to which its operating and capital budget have been implemented’. I mean, doesn’t that say the <br />same thing? ‘The extent to which’ – I don’t know that ‘efficiency’ really adds much. I’m just saying ‘the extent to which it’s <br />operating and capital program and budget have been implemented’. Chris, you have a comment on that? Why do we put ‘and <br />the efficiency of which’? <br />YUEN: This came from the Honolulu Charter and what was put in by the Commission voting earlier. I didn’t put this in. If <br />you stopped after ‘executive agency’, I don’t think it would significantly change what the managing director is going to be <br />doing one way or the other. I would say that it’s fairly clear that one of the things that the managing director is supposed to <br />do is see that they follow the budget and that they implement it. I don’t think you have to say that specifically, I mean, if <br />you’re trying to simplify this. If you say it, it says it. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 05-31-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />