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minutes 05-31-00Page 5 of 54 <br />OTTERSON: Yes, but the other places you haven’t. See, John? <br />IRVINE: Kona. Were you in Kona? <br />OTTERSON: Pardon? <br />RAY: Okay. Let’s move on. <br />SANTANGELO: I was trying to be nice, but never mind. Thanks for being here, Jim. <br />OTTERSON: Okay. Another thing. This county, this island, the whole works, is going to grow. It’s really getting ready to <br />take hold. But if you don’t have somebody in there that can head it in the right direction, you’re going to end up with a hell of <br />a mess. That’s it. <br />RAY: Okay, thank you. Curtis Tyler. Patrick, you’re next up. <br />TYLER: Good afternoon Mr. Chair, members of the Commission. Thank you for this opportunity to testify again before you. <br />I want to begin by thanking you again for your hard work, your perseverance, and your dedication to hearing the public and <br />responding in the ways that you believe are important for this County, present and future generations. I also want to thank <br />you especially for the deletions of some of the proposals. As I spoke to you last time when you were in Waimea, I indicated <br />that too many will create a lot of confusion, so I think the elimination of these items – the deletion, excuse me, of your <br />original slate makes a lot of sense and I want to commend you for revisiting these and for the courage to listen to the people <br />regarding their concerns about at least half of those. I wanted to comment on some of those amendments which were <br />approved as proposals for the ballot, just very briefly. Oh, and I also want to thank you, Chairman Ray, for sending a <br />personal letter to each of the Council members, as I assume you did, and also to the Chair. I received one from you and I got <br />one from Mr. Arakaki. Thank you for summarizing. That’s always nice to have an Executive Summary, especially when you <br />left your file back in Kona. <br />But, with respect to Strengthening the Authority of the County Managing Director: I think it’s important, which is in the <br />absence of a County Manager, I think this is a good interim move and we’ll be able to see how things go the next few years. I <br />think, probably, that person should, as an Administrative Supervisor, probably should have a minimum of a Masters in Public <br />Administration or a Masters in Business Administration. <br />With respect to the Fire Commission: As I’ve said before, we just want to be sure that we don’t want to repeat some of the <br />problems in terms of process, or in terms of system, that we may be seeing today in the Police Commission. And I want to <br />comment on some of the previous comments by members of the public regarding this. I think we always have to be extremely <br />careful about whether a system change is needed or whether it has to do with the individual people, the leadership current, or <br />lack thereof. And sometimes we’re quick to change our system, or our process, because we’re reacting to an individual or a <br />specific situation. So, while I think that the ideas from the public regarding appointments, or elected Commissioners, <br />certainly I know have received your careful consideration, I think they may, in the future, be commended for further <br />consideration. The idea that the Council members each might appoint someone might lend itself for a similar situation, at <br />least in some cases. Although having nine individuals as opposed to one certainly would lower the chances of that happening. <br />Nonetheless, as Commissioner Herkes pointed out, these Commissioners always come for confirmation by the Council <br />members, and if the Council members approve them, you assume this is part of the system. If they choose to ask questions, or <br />not ask questions, this is hopefully in response to the knowledge of the nominee or the information they receive from the <br />members of the public. So I think we have to weigh this carefully in terms of process. <br />Clearly members of the Fire Department, as I’ve previously stated to you, have stated strong support for something like a Fire <br />Commission because it’s worked very well on Oahu. So I thank you for that. <br />With respect to the Department of Environmental Management: Because I don’t have all my notes here, is the Environmental <br />Management Commission going to be one from each Council district, the same kind of appointment situation? <br />RAY: Yes. <br />TYLER: Okay. <br />HERKES: We changed all the Commissions to be that. All of the Commissions will be geographic. <br />file://\\coh01\cohweb\council\charter_commission\minutes\minutes 05-31-00.html7/1/2011 <br /> <br />