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BALOG: I move to close the nomination. • YOSHIYAMA: Second. SANTANGELO: Okay, all those in favor say. "Aye". ALL: AYE. SANTANGELO: Contrary minded? Then lets take it as it was presented. We have Roland Higashi, who has been nominated as Vice Chair. All those in favor, please raise your right hand. I see six (Alonzo, Balog, Bess, Kurozawa, Martin and Yoshiyama). Those in favor of Sue Irvine, please raise your right hand. It's four (Herkes, Irvine, Ray and Santangelo). It's six to four. Roland will be the Vice Chair. Thank you very much. RAY: Proceeding on the Agenda. Item C — Consideration for Commission's Budget Requirements for various time periods. I feel like we're a little bit over our head here without having any background on what our limitations, or possibilities are, what's kind of normal or been spent in the past. LEGASPI: Maybe you can defer that until you get to Section D, then, whether you want an outside attorney. RAY: Well, all these budget items, to me we need to look at those in detail in terms of our own expenses to get a sense of the duties of a • commission attorney. I have no idea what we are talking about hourly in terms of past commissions, I mean the number of hours. BALOG: Just one thing that I was thinking about with the budget. It might be worth our while to have Rudy go and get a few rates from law firms and what the going rate would be so it could be presented at the next meeting for the simple fact we aren't sure what rates there are and what the hours will be and from there, depending on whether we want to have an outside attorney part time or full time to assist with a Corp Counsel attorney which you brought up. RAY: But is it your sense that we come Up with this budget by saying that we're going to have one meeting per month, just take so many hours per month and that's our monthly budget? How are we going to come up with a budget for the attorney? BALOG: In general, I don't think any attorney is going to work for you eight hours a day. If we go outside, they're going to have their prep time before that date and time after that meeting. That's why I'm saying 1 feel it's only fair that you ask for quotes from law firms.