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RAY: I know that John Santangelo called some members of the commission in regard to this appointment and I know that he put my name out there so I just want to speak to that. When John called me I told him I'd be happy to serve, 111 also be happy be happy to serve with whoever you guys feel would be best qualified. And as far as the process, whatever everybody is comfortable with, whether we choose somebody today or whether we appoint a nominating committee, I'm fine with that too. SANTANGELO: And to make that clear, my phone call was who I supported and asking for the people to consider that. I don't think I asked anyone to vote in a particular way. And just to qualify that too, I think 1 talked to everybody here and the people I didn't I tried to get a hold of on the way in, was simply just trying in my opinion, no fast dealing, was to create something that was very fair and open to both sides of the island. I've worked with John Ray, I've argued and fought with him over certain issues. He's a process oriented person that's clear thinking and very fair minded. And I like the way he ran his committees and so it was just simply my way of getting out there. So back to this. HERKES: Do you want a motion? I'd like to do an outright election today. SANTANGELO: Okay, we have a motion to do an outright election. Do we have a second: RAY: I'II second for discussion. SANTANGELO: Okay, open for discussion. We'll take one at a time. If no discussion, call for the question. IRVINE: do it. I think everybody should be comfortable with this before we SANTANGELO: That's what the discussion is for. Anybody else have any input? Are we ready for the question? All those in favor say Aye. ALL: AYE. SANTANGELO: Opposed? Okay, we are now open for nominations for Chair. I think I've made it clear where it's at, so is there anyone who would like to make a motion? As Chair, I don't know if I can make a motion. HERKES: I nominate John Ray. SANTANGELO: We have a nomination for John Ray as Chair. Do we have a second? Any other nominations? All those in favor say "Aye".