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had gone and copied the charters of the other counties, and somebody went and dug up some mainland material -as well, and I'm not sure who did that. As I read through this, I was surprised at some of the things I did that I didn't remember doing. RAY: Okay. BESS: Thank you. RAY: Roland; YUEN: I think the secretary was full-time, huh? BETHEA: Yes, full-time. YUEN: Full-time. HIGASHI: Question, did you have verbatim minutes? YUEN: Practically. L'ORANGE: Yeah. YUEN: Yeah. Practically verbatim. I don't think 100 percent, but especially more at the beginning we did, yeah. HIGASHI: Another question is who formulated the ballots, the ballot questions? Was it the Commission or County Clerk? YUEN: We had a little bit of a conflict with that, with the Clerk's office, and the -, we wanted to lump more things together that -, where it's particularly the -, what we considered the housekeeping items, and so you voted on them as a block. And the Clerk, at that time, the -. The Charter was a little bit ambiguous as to how, who would make the decision. The Clerk, then, didn't like that and wanted them all broken up. And I think the Commission -, the reason the Commission wanted to lump them is that we had about, I think 19 different things, and the concern was that people would be overwhelmed by having to vote on so many and that they would just tend to just, the hell with it, I'm going to vote no on all of them, which isn't the way it turned out. But in order to make a better package for the voter, this Commission had wanted to lump a number of the different things together to come up, so there would be fewer things to vote on. The Clerk made us break them all out, but in response, partially, to this conflict, the Commission -, one of the things that was put on was a change that said the Commission, basically had the power to determine the form of the ballot. BERKES: Did it pass? 24