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YUEN: I remember the Clerk saying, well, there's a feisty bunch out there. So
<br />that's -. And the voters approved it, so now the Commission -. And, you know, you can only go
<br />so far with this, you know.
<br />One of the things, if you go back to, if you go back to the very early attempts to have a Charter,
<br />they were -, I don't know if it was deliberate or accidental, but they failed because of the way the
<br />ballot was set up, and you can sabotage a ballot proposal. And part of the reason why the single
<br />member, just to get this, the single member and the two years were put together was to keep it
<br />from being too confusing, because otherwise you'd have to vote on -. Because all the people that
<br />were in favor of two years were only in favor of it if you went to single member, so you didn't
<br />want it -. Rather than have an if and only if type of question on the ballot, which people have
<br />enough trouble dealing with the kinds of questions that they get, but one that would only -, the
<br />two years -. The other way of doing it, the way to break it apart would be to say that only if
<br />single member passes, we would then -, are you then in favor of having two years? There's also a
<br />way, and I won't explain how to do this, but there was a way of setting it up so that it would
<br />almost guarantee both of them have lost, you know, where you have multiple kinds of things that
<br />you have to check on.
<br />So this comes up and, you know, the -, my approach always is, you know, you don't -, you
<br />present it to people, you let them vote on it, you win or you lose, and you don't try to rig the
<br />ballot. But, you know, it can be done, and if you go back to -, and there's a court case on this
<br />where the first, the first Charter was voted on back in May -, right when Shunichi Kimura was the
<br />County Chair. The way the ballot was set up was that there were, and I don't remember exactly
<br />how it was done, but there were three or four alternatives, and there were inconsistencies in them,
<br />and if you didn't -, and unless one out of four got over 50 percent, then there wasn't going to be a
<br />Charter. And I think, perhaps, coincidentally or not, this was a period where the Charter was -.
<br />Before this, the County Clerk was elected, and after the Charter called for the County Clerk to be
<br />appointed, then the County Clerk set up how the ballot was going to be on the Charter.
<br />HIGASHI: So -.
<br />YUEN: That's a long answer to your question.
<br />HIGASHI: So in the final end.
<br />YUEN: Yeah.
<br />HIGASHI: Did the Commission formulate the specific question?
<br />YUEN: Right. Right.
<br />HIGASHI: Okay.
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