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we have departments involved with those meetings. But whatever the Commission decides. But <br />I'm just making reference to an earlier point, early on. And I think Marni was the one that <br />mentioned that, that it might be difficult to make all of the meetings. <br />HERKES: Mr. Bess, I have driven to Hilo five times in the last seven days. <br />BESS: I -. <br />RAY: Marni -. <br />HERKES: So I don't think that's a question. But you're right, not everybody -, there <br />isn't everybody here today. There wasn't everybody here last time. There is going to be a play. <br />But I don't think you can schedule who can come at which time. <br />BESS: So what you're saying is that you think that there ought to be substance <br />attached to every public hearing, is that it? <br />HERKES: <br />right. <br />I think there ought to be substance attached to every public hearing, you're <br />BESS: From the departments? <br />HERKES: No. Substance attached. <br />• <br />BESS: I'm sorry. <br />HERKES: Nnot necessarily from the departments. <br />BESS: I'm meaning it in terms of eliciting testimony from the departments. Isn't <br />that what we're talking about here? <br />RAY: That's what I, you know, was talking about, specifically. <br />BESS: Yeah. <br />RAY: And I -, you know, I think we ought to, you know, be mindful of the fact <br />that, you know, do we want to, you know, request County departments to come out to, you <br />know, Naalehu or Waimea in the evening to address or not? Mr. Balog. <br />BALOG: If you have committees from the Commission instead of having a full- <br />fledged meeting, it could work in the favor of procedure that you could run the meetings more as <br />informational and trying to gather information, then going through the public, somebody come up, <br />and then the public, at the end, even though you have public comments, somebody says, hey, that <br />