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led to believe by the fact that he or she went through this process and got a favorable ruling from a Commission that I've been vindicated, but they're not. So I think it, in this area of grievances and -. It probably, at one time, was a very useful provision, but I think it's outlived its usefulness. IRVINE: So you'd leave nothing in its place? WURDEMAN: Take away that function. IRVINE: Of the Police Commission? WURDEMAN: They have some other functions, but I'd take -. IRVINE: Oh. WURDEMAN: That one away. IRVINE: Right. That function and the -, but you'd leave no -. I mean then who would be investigating these problems? WURDEMAN: Well, the Police Department has an Internal Affairs Unit, and they, they're supposed to do that. • IRVINE: Okay. WURDEMAN: I guess I overlooked the biggest one, which is the water and the sewer. HIGASHI: Saving that for last. WURDEMAN: Yeah. I know the Water Department's going to oppose this strongly, but I firmly believe that it's a good idea, and I'll tell you why. And the problem is -, there's three reasons why it's a good idea. One, we have a hell of a time collecting sewer bills because people -, con -wise people feel no need to pay them because they don't have the threat of having their water cut off. Two, federal requirements, conditions on federal aid require that the sewer fund be maintained or be self-sustaining. The rates are presently set by the Council. For political reasons, the Council is not always willing to raise the sewer rates up to the point where the system will be self-sustaining, so they always lag. Hopefully, if it was put under the Water Commission, they'd be less subject to outside pressure to keep the rates at a low level. And thirdly, the point that was brought out by the Mayor when he was here a couple weeks ago, that sometime in the future, we're going to have to really look seriously at using wastewater as a water resource, and it would make sense to have, to have the whole cycle under one authority. 23