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SANTANGELO: And the ordinance addresses that though. It says the procedure shall be set by the Council. CARTER: I would have no problem with that slight little amendment, providing that we get exact direction from the Council what they want from us. SANTANGELO: But other than that, you have no other suggestion on how this can be -, besides dropping it altogether. CARTER: Yeah, because I really don't think we're going to please the opposition, no matter what we provide. SANTANGELO: That's the point. CARTER: I think their pleasure will come at the fact that we'll legalize. SANTANGELO: Yeah. So we've got to take a look at this with that special interest in mind but really for better government, we need to look at the overall process and how it affects all programs and the operation of the County. CARTER: That's critical here because of the magnitude of what it's going to do when you consider every program in the County of Hawaii. SANTANGELO: Thank you. CARTER:. Every agency. RAY: Okay. Other questions for Major Carter? IRVINE: I guess I'd just like to say -. RAY: Sue. IRVINE: Once again, which is what I said to the Corporation Counsel, that a lot of the good government stuff that I've been reading from the Government Finance Officers' Association, the National Civic League on Measuring Performance at City Hall, you set up parameters for how you're going to measure the performance of any given program, and once you've set that up, then you don't really have to reinvent the wheel every time. And maybe this is the one program that we should just set something up and say try it, you know, and it sounds like you've really done that. And once you've done that, you've done the best you can, and there's just going to be controversy with this one issue. But I don't think we ought to throw out all performance reviews just because one gives us a great deal of trouble. 43