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BALOG: 1 guess the second question is one thing that was discussed too, in <br />some prior discussions, was the amount of proposals that go on the Charter and having <br />people actually being able to understand them. You brought up a point already about <br />City and County of Oahu where the Mayor has flexibility. Is that something that your <br />department would rather see than having about six or seven proposals go on the <br />Charter just for Planning, along with other departments? Or have you guys discussed <br />that, like I guess, Executive Branch with Department heads? <br />GOLDSTEIN: No, we haven't really discussed this other alternative but 1 think it is <br />true that the more changes you have to a Charter, that the more difficult it becomes for <br />the public to understand the why, unless you start getting at, first of all, some of the <br />foundational kinds of questions first before you go piece meal, the amendments. And <br />for example is the issue of whether there should be two Planning Commissions. I <br />think before you even get to that question you need to ask the question and decide for <br />yourselves, whether there ought to be one County government or two, because that's <br />really basically what it really comes down to. If you say, yes, we should have two, then <br />other things follow. That's what I think. <br />BALOG: <br />understand. <br />I just wanted to ask as you're going now, early on, so I can <br />RAY: But, Mr. Balog, your question was more in terms of the process, <br />doing things through Charter Amendments vs. doing them administratively, and your <br />question was, do we need to be, or we certainly need to be aware of it, but concerned <br />over the number of Charter Amendments, and maybe there's a better way to do it, is <br />that more - <br />BALOG: Well, she raised the issue of how Oahu has it in theirs so 1 figured <br />that'd be the person to ask, and since she's a current Department Head, I don't know if <br />they hold meetings and they've discussed this as a group. <br />GOLDSTEIN: We haven't discussed this. <br />RAY: Okay, Mr. Martin. <br />MARTIN: Several questions, one you've possibly answered already but you <br />made mention, again as Kevin has indicated, about Oahu having this system already in <br />place. How long ago was it implemented and is there any feedback as to how it's <br />working? <br />GOLDSTEIN: The switch and the consolidation of the two departments was done <br />last year. It's not clear how well it's working. The present Planning Director now has <br />staff of about 300+ and so, I know that that's quite overwhelming in itself, but how well <br />12 <br />