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with a format that we think isn't too confusing, and is saleable, and is understandable, and if that works, we can pursue it or not. And maybe that'll decide whether we even pursue some of these things. I guess that's what 1 was getting at. I mean I don't want. to make it too overwhelming and confusing if it's something that's not all that important, but if there's a way we can do it, and clean the Charter up, I think we ought to do that as well. MARTIN: I happen to agree. I'd like to take it one step further though, in the concept, if we do make a few changes to the Charter with some of the proposals that have been brought forth to us, and the wording has to be changed in different sections of it, are we going to have to list each one of these changes down, or is there a format we can put into place that housekeeping would then be available to us? YUEN: Well, on the ballot, say you have a change that involves several sections but it's really one change. An example might be to create a Division of Permitting, as has been suggested, which means changing a lot of different things in Planning Department's section, some things in Public Works Department section. When that's put on the ballot, that can be put on the ballot as one question, even though there may be nine different places that are going to be changed in the Charter. MARTIN: So that we could change it after it comes back if it's voted in the affirmative, then? YUEN: Right, and then what we will do, and should do, is have the exact wording of each section that will be changed, and that's available to the public. That has a double check on what we're doing, but actually, what appears on the ballot is going to be a Simplified question; Shall there be a Division of Permitting that combines certain functions of the Planning Department and the Department of Public Works, yes or no. RAY: Roland. HIGASHI: That's the reason we need to provide a digest within a certain period before the election is held so that people will get educated as to the exact question and the longer language that's going to be available for them to review. RAY: So in terms of the two sections we just covered, Finance and Planning, my suggestion is that we head up the next agenda with both these. We try to get enough input and pull together the Division of Permitting so that we can decide how that's going to look, and if we agree on it, give Chris the go ahead to move forward on that. And then also, if there are other things that we want to pursue in terms of Planning, or the Planning Commission, that we have time to digest what we heard this evening and we'll get as much done, and if we can wrap those sections up preliminarily, 43