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MARTIN: Good point. <br />KUROZAWA: Just a point of information, actually. We talked earlier about trying <br />to get rid of the Mayor and have a County Manager, but is there any system where <br />they actually have a Mayor and a County Council, but actually have a true <br />professional Managing Director, like a CEO, for the County still? Is that still a <br />possible option for the County here? <br />RAY: I think it is, and whether that's the choice of the Mayor versus <br />something that's strictly dictated in the Charter is what we're, kind of, exploring. But, I <br />think more that the model is the Mayor's the CEO, and the Managing Director is the <br />COO, the Chief Operating Officer, or something, of the County, that runs the day to day <br />business. But I think where you get into the conflict is under the true Council Manager <br />form of government. That person hires the department heads and deputies versus the <br />Mayor, and that's where you get into who do they really work for, or answer to, and <br />that's the sticky part. <br />HIGASHI: So that's why in the strong Mayor type of government, the Mayor is <br />the overall administrator, yes? <br />RAY: Right. <br />• HIGASHI: So, he still will be running the operation. <br />HERKES: The difference, to me, would be that the Mayor - excuse me for <br />jumping in, but I need to clarify this. If the Managing Director were the COO, and he <br />hired the department heads, the departments heads and the COO would not be <br />subject to the elections. That's what I need clarification on. Would they be subject to <br />an election cycle? Would we be hiring a person who could function until we didn't want <br />them to function, until they got fired or until they retired, like a business? <br />HIGASHI: <br />thing. <br />MARTIN: <br />individual? <br />Then you go back to the County Manager. It alludes to the same <br />Then how do you separate the powers at that point, in hiring the <br />RAY: I think, with the strong Mayor, we're talking about the Mayor's <br />going to be hiring the Managing Director, so it is very much subject to election cycles. <br />HERKES: I would like to see it taken out of the election cycle, but that's a <br />different story. I'd like to discuss what it would look like. <br />RAY: <br />more? <br />I don't have any detailed answers on this. Steve, do you have any <br />24 <br />