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HERKES: We voted against it. BESS: Yes. HIGASHI: No, we're talking about a Managing Director. BESS: Managing Director. HERKES: Where is that on our list? IRVINE: It's under Department Heads. HIGASHI: It just popped up. HERKES: You know, you guys, I'm pissed off because you voted against it, so you know. HIGASHI: But it's coming around - BESS: Yes, I did because I think that a complete overhaul - RAY: In terms of Roland's suggestion and, Steve, your comments, that's the way the department heads are appointed and confirmed now, and they clearly answer to the Mayor, not to the County Council, so I don't think that's really a conflict. I think, if you put in there the criteria so the Council has something to hang their hat on; this needs to be a professional City Manager type and have those types of credentials, so if the Mayor doesn't bring forth somebody of that caliber, with those qualifications, then the Council clearly has a reason not to confirm them, in terms of their professional qualifications. So, it seems like we could address that because that's a whole specialized field now, that we could go out and, certainly, recruit somebody. The other areas; we could eliminate the residency requirement because that's normally done with _ City Managers. You anticipate that you're probably going to have to bring somebody in from outside. HIGASHI: Getting away from the subject. RAY: Let's finish it though. HIGASHI: Not the subject, but, I just get bothered by when we say we need to have somebody from outside; we need a certain level of expertise. I think it should be written where people around here could qualify. RAY: I'm not saying you have to bring somebody from outside. • HIGASHI: Well, it's mentioned time and time again that we have this certain 26