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MARTIN: Right. If you run only two people. You and I run, and you beat me, you should, right there, be bound over as elected. Why should yoU run again and have the same result again? And cost factor is what I'm looking at, to the County. YUEN: You're elected outright. And this was your motion on the non- partisan, and this is the way we wrote it up that it would work, exactly like that. MARTIN: Okay. As long as it's written because you know how our public works it sometimes. YUEN: Actually, it's guaranteed if you only have two, one would be elected outright in the first election, for simplicity's sake, we'll call the Primary Election because it would be held at the time of the Primary, but because blanks and spoils are not counted, with two people, somebody's got to win. And so, that will not carry over. We started this discussion a minute ago when Roland was out, and I wanted you to come back. I think there's two details left on the 6-3 that passed, that the Commission just needs to give me a little direction on so that I can finalize that item. And the two issues are: Are there term limits for the 3 at -larges, and if so, how does that work? Is it going to be four terms of two years? Two times four years? And I really wasn't sure from reading the minutes how the Commission wanted to go on that. RAY: Another thing in regard to term limits that we need to explore is do we want to make any exception on the eight-year term limit to accommodate the Council persons at -Targe. In other words, if you've served 3 two-year terms, could you run Council at -large and, in essence, serve - because that's another - HIGASHI: Another office. IRVINE: John, it would seem to me that it's pretty obviously a different office. if it's the at -large seat. Isn't it? RAY: I don't think it's entirely obvious to anybody, and one of the big issues in regard to term limits had to do with vesting retirement, so that's very much on the - HERKES: Isn't it funny the voters didn't think about that a lot. YUEN: Not something that they were really worried about. RAY: But, isn't that something else we need to consider? YUEN: You're absolutely right, and because this is something that's new, it needs just to be decided, and John is right to add that on there. It can be done either way, but it should be spelled out so the people look at it and there's no uncertainty. And 16