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• is it going to be considered as a new office if you do your eight years as a district Council member, and you're looking at, oh, I want to stay on the Council, can you run for at -large, whether it's two or four, and is that going to count. Any way is legal. It's up to the Commission to make a decision, and those are the options, really. RAY: Okay. HIGASHI: I would say, if you would send us a memo in writing and having it addressed categorically, then we can eliminate those questions one by one at our next meeting. RAY: I'd like to hear what people are thinking. To me, I think the at -large seats, which I'm not in favor of, but if there are going to be at -large seats, I think they should be four-year terms vs. two-year terms. So, that's one thing we need to decide. And then I'm not as sure on the term limit thing regarding a new office. HIGASHI: On the new office. If there is a term limit, then we need to decide. I think it would be two separate issues. No term limit may appear on the ballot if we decide to test whether a term limit is required. Every two years is an election. And if a term limit does exist, then we need to make sure we have language in there. If the term limit is eliminated, then it becomes, whether we have it in, it just be eliminated. A new office thing, I think is more intriguing than the 4 two-year. RAY: Marni. HERKES: I, kind of, think of elections as term limits. I don't think of term limits per se, but I'm not against them. It's just not something that 1 think is important because elections are term limits. But, 1 think that the at -large seats are different constituency. It's a larger constituency. It's a different office, and therefore, I don't think the at -large should be tied into the term limits for the single member districts. RAY: George. MARTIN: I disagree with that, and I think that we're talking about a Council person, as the old system used to be, running at -large, and still a Council person. If you're going to call it something different, then call it something different. But, as long as it's a Council person, and that's what we're talking about, then the term limits should stand. How we deal with it, whether it be two-four, or I've even heard somebody mention two -four -two. However we deal with it is fine, but the term limit at eight years has got to stand because the public spoke two or three elections in concession, that they wanted a term limit. To make a change now, we're fooling ourselves. That ain't going to happen. RAY: I'm glad you brought that up. I forgot to acknowledge Councilman Elarinoff who did send in testimony in regard to a possible suggestion, and the two - 17