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to vote on. And that's all I have to say. Thank you. RAY: Jay, you might want to stick around. WEST: Yes, 1 was going to. RAY: One of the things we're going to talk about is the idea of a committee, or a Commission, on solid waste and the environment, and Jay's very involved in manufacturing recycled glass, and she's been at the forefront of some of these discussions for a long time. So that would be helpful if you'd stick around. HIGASHI: I have a question. RAY: Yes sir, Roland. HIGASHI: Jay, there was a situation over in Kona where they had a subdivision that was approved by the Council, where the community wanted to have another access road mauka-makai, and if you had at -large Council people, you'd be their constituents. I think, in that case, it may be an opportunity for people to pressure those people a lot more because they would also have to run in your district. So, one of the benefits of having at -large, you would have more Council people. l mean, you'd be their constituency. WEST: Yes, however, I feel as though, with the population as diverse as it is, it's hard for a person to say, yes, I represent the whole island, when it's so hard to get around the whole island, and to be able to represent those people. So that's why I feel strongly about that. That thing with that subdivision deal, that's a planning deal. That's just poor planning. HIGASHI: Yes, but those Council people are going to be the ones who are making the decisions. And many of the controversies within the Council are planning issues. RAY: That concludes the public testimony for right now. We are expecting at least one additional person. A gentleman; Phil Bruce, from Waikaloa, called and said he'd be here, so if he does come, we'll probably go ahead and take him. Minutes Approval. We have two sets of minutes to approve. December 4th. Can I have a motion? HERKES: Move for approval. 2