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• JIM: Well, it's simple. The Constitution clearly separates the restrictions of lands. No buts, no if, unless your attorney can say they're all one. YUEN: Let me just say something a little bit more, and I don't want to get into a lengthy kind of summary of the whole history of the counties, and why the boundaries are set forth the way they are, or the Hawaiian Home lands and how jurisdiction works on the Hawaiian Home lands, but from what you're saying here, I think I want to emphasize one sentence in my letter, and perhaps I should have written more than one sentence on the subject in my letter. The sentence in my letter says something like how the county's jurisdiction is exercised over different types of land within the county may differ depending on the status of the land. The way the County exercises it's jurisdiction over the Hawaiian Home lands is different than it is over, to give an example, other state-owned property, over private property and it's different than it is over Federal property. And I'll return to that thought in just a second. Let me say, though, that there really is no doubt, from a legal point of view, that the County of Hawaii does encompass the whole island, and according to State law, must encompass the whole island, including the Hawaiian Homes lands. As a strictly practical matter, let me explain what the significance of that is. When somebody living on Hawaiian Homes land, in the middle of the night, hears somebody breaking into their house, and they pick up the phone and call 911, and connect to the Hawaii Police Department, the Police Department is expected, and has the duty of responding to that call, and going down there, and if they catch somebody burglarizing that house,, they have the jurisdiction to make an arrest. They have that jurisdiction because the Hawaiian Homes lands are part of the County. If they were not part of the County, the Police Department does not have jurisdiction over it. To give another practical example, if we decided to exclude the Hawaiian Homes lands from the County, I do not see how people living on Hawaiian Homes lands would get to vote for County offices like the Mayor. People who live on the Island of Maui do not get to vote for our Mayor simply because they are not within the County. This is the practical significance of the Hawaiian Homes lands being within the County. Now, let me return to that thought of how the jurisdiction is exercised over different parts of land is different. How the jurisdiction of the criminal law works in Hawaiian Homes land and how the jurisdiction of the Police and the Fire Department works in Hawaiian Homes land is exactly the same as other kinds of properties in Hawaii. The crimes are the same. The police make arrests the same. The County Highway Department maintains the roads, supposed to, anyway, maintain the roads, right? No? JIM: Okay, I won't answer that for you. YUEN: So, that when we talk about a police jurisdiction, fire jurisdiction, it really is just about the same. When we get to toning, it's a tough area, and I said I'm not going to give an essay on zoning for a couple of reasons. One is that it is a tough area. What is the County's zoning authority in Hawaiian Homes land? I'm not up on 11