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just like we did, for this Commission, but it's not that critical because they're not rules <br />that effect the general public. They still have to go through rule making and the like, <br />but your really difficult rules are rules like Planning Commission rules where they <br />govern what kind of permits you can get, as a member of the public to come in. The <br />Fire Commission will have rules that are just going to be pretty much proforma types <br />of rules. They'll have to have a rule on when is their regular meeting, where do they <br />meet, where do you send mail, what's a quorum, but that's almost an automatic kind of <br />thing. So I don't think that would seriously delay them getting together and - <br />HIGASHI: I'm going to the point if there are rules, we should allow the Fire <br />Commission to appoint it's chief and then promulgate its rules, if it gets in the way. Do <br />they need rules before they can have the authority to appoint a chief? The Charter <br />gives them the authority already. <br />HERKES: It says in the thing, 'adopt rules necessary for the conduct of its <br />business', so if its business is appointing the chief, it needs rules that are necessary for <br />the conduct of that business. <br />HIGASHI: Then my next step is maybe, part of our Charter, if it passes, we <br />should have draft rules for them. <br />YUEN: Yes, let me think about that. What you're getting at is a really good <br />point, is that you don't want them waiting a couple of months, approving the rules, when <br />the only thing the rules are going to say is, well, we meet on Thursday. Let me try to <br />figure out a way to handle that. <br />RAY: Anything else on 4. Fire Commission? 5. Department of <br />Environmental Services. <br />YUEN: This is, kind of, just a simple - I didn't go to any great detail on this <br />but the Commission has not voted on this before, or seen it before I wrote it up and <br />sent it out. Just so we're clear on that. <br />HIGASHI: I have one question. If it's an advisory, does it need to be <br />confirmed by the Council? <br />YUEN: You wouldn't have to have it confirmed by the Council. It's up to <br />the Charter Commission on how they want to handle that. <br />HERKES: Are all the other Department Heads confirmed by the Council? <br />HIGASHI: No, not Department Heads. The Commission, because it's <br />advisory in nature. <br />YUEN: Generally, the Charter has a catchall provision that says that <br />members of advisory commissions do not need to be confirmed by the Council, I'm not <br />26 <br />