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sure why I put in confirmed by the Council. I don't think the Commission actually voted on that, and so whichever way you want to have it, it's really up to the Commission on that. IRVINE: It depends upon how much weight we're giving to their advice, I would say. If you want the Council to buy into this, then it would be nice for them to confirm these people, having served on certain advisory commissions, that I would never serve on again, when one person has the ability to just appoint anybody they want. HIGASHI: I would just look at it in terms of being consistent, Chris. I know the advisory boards are not confirmed by the Council. YUEN: Yes, the way I've written it up, it's not consistent with the rest of the Charter but this would override it because it specifically says that it is confirmed by the Council. But, again, it's up to you folks whether you want to have it confirmed or not. HIGASHI: Because they're not policy makers, I would say that they need not be confirmed by the Council. RAY: The other thing is you could take out 'advisory'. IRVINE: We haven't specified that they have any duties like zoning permits IIat this time, but I think we were hoping that this advice would have some weight here, rather than, and I don't want to name specific advisory boards. HERKES: Try landfills. I've been on three of them. IRVINE: They meet and nothing happens. HERKES: No, things happen, but maybe not what you recommend. IRVINE: Yes, nobody necessarily pays any attention on the County level, and I had the feeling that if the Council were involved, in sort of buying into helping appoint these people, that they would then expect reports. RAY: What about, and I'm just throwing this out for discussion, eliminating `advisoy? HIGASHI: Then they would be policy? RAY: In an Environmental Services Commission. IRVINE: Yes. RAY: Just take out the word 'advisory'. 27