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<br />you think that, if this is put into the Charter, would there be a problem with Native
<br />Hawaiians saying well, I'm not going to follow what the county says in the Charter
<br />because it doesn't apply to them?
<br />JIM: Your Corporation Counsel clearly says that. That's a problem,
<br />okay? And I'd like to address that so maybe you'd have a clear ground rules with our
<br />thinking. All of us, we need to find a process to allow some kind of regulations upon
<br />Hawaiian homes that be equal to the public. Unfortunately, the Hawaiian Home
<br />Commission Act was brought from the territory over, total restrictions. They made a lot
<br />of restrictions. And we are not the people. You and us can make it so the way it's
<br />supposed to be. That's simple as that. There is Constitution Amendments to do it and
<br />the Admission Act, Section 4, allows it. Your Constitution allows it. We just got to get
<br />together to work it. It's simple. It is because when it was mandated, they made certain
<br />laws. Trust me, you're going to have the people that don't like the idea, and you're
<br />going to have that like the idea. And that's the problem you're having. I'm one of them.
<br />I'm old. I'm 68 years old, and I'm going to die a Hawaiian. With respect to what I'm
<br />doing, but I believe that dying and knowing that there's no balance is not right. That's
<br />where I come from. That's why I'm here. It's not right.
<br />KAHAWAIOLA'A: And Mr. Kurozawa, may I address that, and this is my own personal
<br />experience, not as President of Keaukaha Community Association. I'm not here
<br />speaking as them today, but I give you my relationship as that - is that the confusion
<br />among the Native Hawaiians is I've got the Native Hawaiians now calling the police,
<br />• saying my neighbor kids are drinking underage in the yard, boom boxes going all night.
<br />That's one Hawaiian who said policeman come. The policeman gets there and they go
<br />to that house, and the person in that house says hey, wait, all the kids are on my
<br />property. This is Hawaiian home lands. And the policeman jumps back and say well,
<br />oh, yeah, it's a private party. Because I inquired as the President of the Community
<br />Association; hey, what's the problem? Boom boxes, 3 o'clock in the morning. We don't
<br />know or we do know. Can we go, or we no can go? It's a private party or is the law
<br />being broken? Is it unlawful underage drinking? What is the problem? You see, that's
<br />where we get the confusion. So, I believe, to answer your question, will they want it?
<br />guess some will, some won't. As Mr. Jim said, I do believe the process should be put
<br />there because there are still people who believe full heartedly in America, and we've
<br />been assimilated into the society, and whatever. I thought that way for several years
<br />because I volunteered to join the military, served in Viet Nam, and did what I needed to
<br />do. However, I'm like Mr. Jim. I decided I'm going to die one Hawaiian. They made
<br />me a Hawaiian. They made me a citizen of the United States in 1952. Everybody born
<br />in the State of Hawaii, in the islands, the Hawaiians were of a different class. We were
<br />not citizens born just because we were part of a territory. But I had to do the research
<br />to find out that the process was that in '52, the United States made me a citizen,
<br />whether I liked it or not. So I decided I'm not going to vote here. I'm going to be this
<br />Hawaiian but I fought in 1963 to 1969 for America. See, so, that was my
<br />impressionable age, 17 to 20 something, so I did that. So to answer your question, I
<br />would believe if it's put in there, there might be some that don't want it, and you're
<br />getting that right now. That's what I'm trying to tell you. You say will the people say,
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