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don't believe I'm a Hawaiian race. JIM: I'm very disappointed in what you guys are doing, and that's why I'm taking steps to make sure you do it. And it's not respect to individuals. There's other people abusing it, and taking advantages of this State. You need to bring it out. Once you bring it out you'll take steps, like the third party; Wal-Mart, the sewer. We have the key to open that door to get into the courtroom and take action. HIGASHI: Mr. Jim. JIM: Yes. HIGASHI: Excuse my ignorance, but Article 12, is that the Hawaiian Homes Commission Act? JIM: Hawaiian Affairs, yes, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 7. HIGASHI: Only deals with Hawaiian homes land. KAHAWAIOLA'A: It deals with everything that's Hawaiian in that Section of the Constitution, Article 12. HIGASHI: Charter? Are we talking about only Hawaiian homes land in reference to the JIM: I'm going to change the language. It's clearly identified by the Supreme Court. There are Statutes in there which is the Hawaiian Affairs. The first paragraph. I have it here but I can give it out - in Hawaiian Affairs. It says nothing in this Constitution withstanding Hawaiian Home Commission Act of the class of a Native Hawaiian. It's a Statute right now. It's racial. It's no doubt that courts out there saying that. And you and the State and it's people, in Section 2 of that, the people that take care of us and the management of that. And there's a definitive in that. HIGASHI: Wait, you're confusing me. You're confusing me. Is Article 12, that you have written in your proposal - JIM: Yes, it's Hawaiian Affairs. HIGASHI: There's a difference between Hawaiian Affairs and Hawaiian Homes Commission and - JIM: No, that's the title. KAHAWAIOLA'A: That's the title of Article 12. HIGASHI: Okay. 5(f) lands and stuff like that? 11