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KUROZAWA: Yes. Unlike Marni's perception, I, kind of, had a strong feeling that we'd have a lot of opposition on this, and there's no question, at least from the West side and Kona side, that there is a suspicion that if you have just at -large seats that everybody's going to come from Hilo. And so that's why I think a lot of the opposition. And the one statement that came out, that may have been a middle ground, was to have the three at -large people from the Senatorial Districts so it's geographic. So, just to toss it out. We, kind of, talked a little bit about that in Waimea months ago, and think if that were to happen, there might be some support. There's no question that if it's just at -large three, there's going to be very little support, probably, for it, at least on the West side. RAY: Other comments? Okay. I don't think we ought to overreact to the total deal killer type thing because I don't really think people, because of one item, are going to vote against the whole package necessarily. But I do think that this is such a divisive issue that it's just going to have a negative effect on the whole island. The reality is every mayoral candidate is from East Hawaii. I think West Hawaii is definitely going to look at this as a power play, or a power grab, by East Hawaii. I think that's the way it's going to be perceived by a lot of people. But, most importantly, I think this is giving one of the parties, the Green Party, just some incredible tools to divide and conquer. If I were the Green Party, I'd want to have this one there. It's a great campaign tool. So anyway, I think we ought to really think this through also in terms of does it have a chance of passing. I don't think it does. HIGASHI: I think we should just vote what we think is right, rather than trying to philosophize what's going to happen to this, and, kind of, move on. RAY: Okay, but I think a strong majority believe in four-year terms, and we're not going to put that out because we don't think that makes sense based on how things have been voted. And in regard to this issue, most people have got it so set in their mind, and are confused on this, that we're going back to the old at -large system. They won't acknowledge that we're not, that this is very much different. It's an in- between type system. But I just think that's the way people are viewing it. MARTIN: Perception, sure. HERKES: John, I just want to point out to Daryl the fact that you pointed out to me, that if we do Senatorial Districts, all three of our Senators live in Hilo. IRVINE: That's true too. RAY: Yes, I think people would catch on to that one pretty quickly. MARTIN: I'm sure they would present it in that light, but the fact remains that the Senatorial Districts go right around the island. They could come from anywhere. It just so happens that they all live in Hilo. 22