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those charged with the admission of such Act shall not be increased except for the consent of Congress. That's basically where we're at. This County has no consent • from Congress to increase the incumbrance. A tax lien is an incumbrance. A building permit is an' incumbrance. A zoning.. change is an incumbrance. It's been ruled. It's senseless for us Hawaiians to come here before you, but we do because we're trying to work within the system. It's again a notice. I do know that a lot of you, and this counsel that you have — don't put this on. Don't put those Hawaiian things in the Charter. Don't do it. And if you're prepared to do that, please sign a document saying that you're not. Then give it to me and I'II take it somewhere else. Because, again, I go back to your responsibilities. You said you upheld the Constitution, took this job as County Commissioners to review the Charter, and then again ignore us when we come before you. Trust me. You can all say personally no, that's not what we feel, but that's how Hawaiians feel. IRVINE: Sir. KAHAWAIOLA'A: Yes. IRVINE: I don't think we're ignoring you. KAHAWAIOLA'A: Thank you for your thought. IRVINE: I think we're doing our best to understand, and it is very, very difficult to understand whether you wish to be part of the County or exempt. I do not feel that I could vote for anything that would not continue to provide Police and Fire protection on Hawaiian homes, and I'm afraid if we exclude you in some sense, or include you in some special sense, that you may lack that help. KAHAWAIOLA'A: Then may I just say that if it was your intentions to do that, please let us know, so we know how to explain it better, if you didn't understand it. But to ignore us, to ignore us sends that message. It should have been explained. You got counsel here. He knows absolutely what. This is not his first time sitting here on the Charter Commission. He used to be with the Land Use Commission. Please avail yourselves. Don't treat us as second class citizens. JIM: Let me give you some kind of guidelines of the mandatory law, the General Law of this county, the local government. It's very simple. You turn to Article XII, Section 3. It clearly express the incumbrance. Those are mandated, compelled, by the State and government that you cannot increase the incumbrance without the authority of government. That's preempt law by Congress, that you accepted it under the Compact on Article XII, Section 2. It's not something that you have to put on the ballot. It's something that's mandatory. Now, if you decide that you the rumors we have — we find ourselves very difficult to come before this Board because their concerns is about the Native Hawaiians on the Constitution uses of the law of the body. political, which you are. You don't belong. to us. The Constitution separates us. Can you come on our land? That tells you no. Can you get a sewer plant come on our 14