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But the reason why I'm here — the questions that I wanted to ask that are things I've read in the <br />paper about — I know John had talked about the Directors of each department. They would <br />• have to have a degree of some sort, but now that I read in the paper they don't have to have <br />anything. Whoever wants to appoint them, can appoint them. Is that right? <br />RAY: No. <br />OTTERSON: Then I'm reading it wrong in the paper. According to the way I read it in the <br />paper, they do not have to have any — Public Works Director wouldn't have to have - <br />RAY: The Public Works Director would have to be a registered engineer. <br />HERKES: And — <br />OTTERSON: He does? <br />RAY: Yes. <br />OTTERSON: Okay, that's great. How about — <br />RAY: Every Department Head has qualifications in the Charter. <br />OTTERSON: The Planning Department? <br />• RAY: Right, every Department Head. <br />OTTERSON: That's great. <br />RAY: They may not be to your liking but they all have qualifications in the <br />Charter. <br />OTTERSON: It may not be to my liking, huh? <br />HERKES: But they're stronger than they are now. <br />OTTERSON: They are? <br />HERKES: We're working in the right direction. <br />OTTERSON: Because, just to give you a 'for instance', in Kona the new high school that <br />they built there, the entrance to the high school is as wide as a freeway. You come out of there <br />and then you get on to '11. They have built beautiful rock walls 30-35 feet high. Now, 11 will be <br />a major thorough way someday. Now, they're going to have to move them doggone walls back <br />out and the amount of money and time that they have spent on those walls, those rock walls, <br />will all have to come out of there. <br />III RAY: That's a State Highway, and that's a State high school. So that's not under <br />4 <br />